The news media is officially a total joke Options

[Billy]

So to defeat your argument all I have to do is provide you with one thing Obama has proposed that isn't a fantasy?

That would be a good start.

[impala454]

No, it's not.

haha ok.. <3rd grade>YES IT IS!!</3rd grade>

And it's probably a good thing for McCain that the media hasn't been paying much attention to him. All he's really done is cry because he's not getting enough attention

he's the other candidate for the presidential election and he's not receiving anywhere near the coverage of the other. how is that not a legimate beef? (or "cry" as you so put it )

and hurl false charges at Obama.

False charges?? about what??

[chook]

Dude!! Pebkac responded just like an Impalia post!

[pebkac]

he's the other candidate for the presidential election and he's not receiving anywhere near the coverage of the other. how is that not a legimate beef? (or "cry" as you so put it )

Well, let's face it. What Obama's been up to is more interesting than what McCain has been doing. Like the idea of Obama campaigning abroad or hate it, you have to at least admit that it got your attention (even without the media's influence).

In all, you're right: it's not fair. But politics isn't fair in general. I'd rather have someone who can turn such conditions to their advantage. Our country has a short attention span. It wouldn't take much to turn things around.

False charges?? about what??

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper...-they-help.aspx

The most relevant parts quoted below:

Without even this illusory policy difference to flog, McCain had to find another line of attack. His chosen course, as Politico reports this morning, is "to employ the tack many strategists see as essential and which anonymous e-mailers and commenters with no apparent links to his campaign have been practicing since last summer: hitting Obama not on his record or his platform, but on his values and person." McCain's new strategy is on full display in his latest ad, "Troops (video above), which slams Obama for, among other things, "ma[king] time to go to the gym, but cancel[ing] a visit with wounded troops" because "the Pentagon wouldn't allow him to bring cameras." McCain's goal here is clear: to paint Obama as an unpatriotic troop-hater. Unfortunately, the accusation is baseless.




It's true that in Germany last week Obama went to the gym and nixed a trip to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. But any resemblance to reality ends there. Late last week, the Pentagon informed Obama that it would regard the foreign policy adviser accompanying him to Landstuhl, Maj Gen. Scott Gration (Ret.), as a campaign staffer. Worried that the visit would be seen as a photo-op, his team called it off. "The last thing that I want to do is have injured soldiers and the staff at these wonderful institutions having to sort through whether this is political or not or get caught in the crossfire between campaigns," the candidate told reporters last week. In other words, he was afraid that the political spotlight would shine too brightly on the event--not, as McCain alleges, that it wouldn't shine at all. (Landstuhl--like the Combat Support Hospital Obama visited in Iraq--was simply never on the traveling press corps' schedule.) This may expose an excess of caution and concern over appearances. But it doesn't make Obama a troop-snubber. Meanwhile, McCain spent much of the weekend sniping that his rival "would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign"--a line that Joe Klein called the most "intemperate... personal attack... I've ever heard a major-party candidate make in a presidential campaign, and the sort of thing that no potential President of the United States should ever be caught saying.

Now I'm not saying that Obama's intentions were totally pure here. But McCain's attacks on Obama were a little below him. If you're going to make such an attack on an opponent, at least make it good.

Dude!! Pebkac responded just like an Impalia post!

This makes pebkac a sad panda.

[impala454]

Well, let's face it. What Obama's been up to is more interesting than what McCain has been doing.

haha no. at least not to me.

Like the idea of Obama campaigning abroad or hate it, you have to at least admit that it got your attention (even without the media's influence).

uh... it got my attention because i turn on the fucking news looking for news and his shit is what i get. i didn't have a choice. and how is that "without the media's influence"??

In all, you're right: it's not fair. But politics isn't fair in general. I'd rather have someone who can turn such conditions to their advantage. Our country has a short attention span. It wouldn't take much to turn things around.

i didn't say politics had to be fair, just that mccain has a legitimate beef for not getting as much coverage as obama.

The most relevant parts quoted below:
Now I'm not saying that Obama's intentions were totally pure here. But McCain's attacks on Obama were a little below him. If you're going to make such an attack on an opponent, at least make it good.
This makes pebkac a sad panda.

I fail to see anything in that story or in McCain's video that is a "false charge". Point out what McCain says specifically in there that is false. Regardless of what you may think, Obama's intentions aren't some proveable fact. Your article even admits he didn't go see the troops because he was afraid of what people might think (that it was a photo op). So he's putting his politics above what he was there for, which is exactly what McCain said. I don't see it as an attack, I see it as pointing out a weakness in your opponent.

[Billy]

He can't point out anything. He can't even defend his claims. He believes in Obama like fools believe in religion. They have made up their mind they are right and no amount of reasoning is going to change that.

[Spectatrix]

I fail to see anything in that story or in McCain's video that is a "false charge". Point out what McCain says specifically in there that is false. Regardless of what you may think, Obama's intentions aren't some proveable fact. Your article even admits he didn't go see the troops because he was afraid of what people might think (that it was a photo op). So he's putting his politics above what he was there for, which is exactly what McCain said. I don't see it as an attack, I see it as pointing out a weakness in your opponent.

The false charge was that he canceled the trip because cameras weren't permitted.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sn...ded_troops.html

[impala454]

The false charge was that he canceled the trip because cameras weren't permitted.

That's not what was said though. There were two different statements made. If you want to draw the implication I won't argue, but implications are different from accusations or "charges". It was a very carefully worded ad.