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post Jul 15 2008, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 15 2008, 02:20 PM) *
Because our tax dollars still pay for it when the baby is born here and is technically considered a legal citizen, therefore giving the mother eligibility to be here.


Oh yeah. I forgot they became a legal citizen when they have a kid in our country.

That's another law that needs to be changed. No automatic citizenship and government benefits just because you shitted out a kid in America. That would solve SO many problems, and it would dissuade dumbfuck illegals from getting knocked up for economic benefit, which I surmise many do for that exact reason. Of course that makes perfect social and economic sense, meaning we'll never see a law such as that passed


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post Jul 15 2008, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Jul 15 2008, 01:43 PM) *
How about for once you prove YOUR statement instead of relying on others to disprove it...

I didn't start the thread and make the claims bud. I made no "statement". I simply said we should correlate these numbers to the illegal immigrant rates. That still hasn't been done, so since you're bitching about it and not making any contribution to the thread whatsoever, here:

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf on page 12:

it's from 2000 so it will correspond exactly to the data he posted about illegal immigrants:

Top 10 teen pregnancy states, place in illegal immigrants/capita list:
1. Nevada, 4
2. Arizona, 2
3. Mississippi, 41*
4. New Mexico, 14
5. Texas, 3
6. Florida, 15
7. California, 1
8. Georgia, 10
9. North Carolina, 12
10. Arkansas, 28*

So 8 of the top 10 teen pregnancy states are also in the top 15 in illegal immigrants. With the two exceptions being ARKANSAS AND MISSISSIPPI (can you say hillbilly?). If you can't see any correlation whatsoever, you're blind.

Might I also remind yall. Catholics don't believe in rubbers. Mexicans are predominantly Catholic.
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post Jul 15 2008, 01:30 PM
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So long as Dems rule the Senate/House/Presidency we won't anyway.
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Oasis
post Jul 15 2008, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jul 15 2008, 02:30 PM) *
So long as Dems rule the Senate/House/Presidency we won't anyway.


Solution #2: Kill all democrats

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impala454
post Jul 15 2008, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ Jul 15 2008, 02:33 PM) *
Solution #2: Kill all democrats

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post Jul 15 2008, 01:41 PM
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Why so serious?


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George W. Bush should be publicly hung for his various treasonous acts against America.








see, I'm nicer than both of you: I only want one politician dead. =)


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post Jul 15 2008, 01:59 PM
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who said politician? I thought he said "ALL democrats"? lancifer.gif
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post Jul 15 2008, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 15 2008, 02:41 PM) *
George W. Bush should be publicly hung for his various treasonous acts against America.








see, I'm nicer than both of you: I only want one politician dead. =)
but he did lift the executive ban on offshore drilling so he shouldn't be hung anymore.


QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 15 2008, 02:59 PM) *
who said politician? I thought he said "ALL democrats"? lancifer.gif
There goes Melanie. sad.gif
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Psykopath
post Jul 15 2008, 02:19 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 15 2008, 02:59 PM) *
who said politician? I thought he said "ALL democrats"? lancifer.gif

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THECHICKEN
post Jul 15 2008, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 15 2008, 02:30 PM) *
I didn't start the thread and make the claims bud. I made no "statement". I simply said we should correlate these numbers to the illegal immigrant rates. That still hasn't been done, so since you're bitching about it and not making any contribution to the thread whatsoever, here:

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf on page 12:

it's from 2000 so it will correspond exactly to the data he posted about illegal immigrants:

Top 10 teen pregnancy states, place in illegal immigrants/capita list:
1. Nevada, 4
2. Arizona, 2
3. Mississippi, 41*
4. New Mexico, 14
5. Texas, 3
6. Florida, 15
7. California, 1
8. Georgia, 10
9. North Carolina, 12
10. Arkansas, 28*

So 8 of the top 10 teen pregnancy states are also in the top 15 in illegal immigrants. With the two exceptions being ARKANSAS AND MISSISSIPPI (can you say hillbilly?). If you can't see any correlation whatsoever, you're blind.

Might I also remind yall. Catholics don't believe in rubbers. Mexicans are predominantly Catholic.

Your "statement" was that they needed to be correlated. Then instead of doing it yourself you bitch at other's numbers. Im just saying that if you are going to always be like "someone prove this too me" you should do some of the research yourself; instead of waiting for people to post thier own so you can say how they aren't correct. I see you actually did it now... i commend you, maybe in the future when you say someone's numbers are incorrect (after asking for them) you can put the numbers you are arguing up in your response.

Oh and i agree with you that illegal immigration goes into teen pregancies (partially), but its not the only factor...


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post Jul 15 2008, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Jul 15 2008, 03:45 PM) *
maybe in the future when you say someone's numbers are incorrect (after asking for them) you can put the numbers you are arguing up in your response.

But I didn't say anyone's numbers were incorrect. I merely suggested that it could be a possible explanation for the numbers shown. Plus too many people (yes, including some people on here) watch/read the media take everything at face value. I figure by proposing the question it might prod people to read news objectively on their own for once.

QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Jul 15 2008, 03:45 PM) *
Oh and i agree with you that illegal immigration goes into teen pregancies (partially), but its not the only factor...

well of course. But to what degree is it in comparison to school taught abstinence programs vs illegal immigrant population growth?
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Dogmeat
post Jul 15 2008, 02:59 PM
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we need to teach children boobsex

ye canna git pregger from boobsex!


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post Jul 15 2008, 03:01 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 15 2008, 03:59 PM) *
we need to teach children boobsex

ye canna git pregger from boobsex!

b00bsex, oral, and anal ftw winky.gif


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THECHICKEN
post Jul 15 2008, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 15 2008, 03:56 PM) *
But I didn't say anyone's numbers were incorrect. I merely suggested that it could be a possible explanation for the numbers shown. Plus too many people (yes, including some people on here) watch/read the media take everything at face value. I figure by proposing the question it might prod people to read news objectively on their own for once.
well of course. But to what degree is it in comparison to school taught abstinence programs vs illegal immigrant population growth?

I was more reffering to billy's numbers and your "you've done better before" comment. He was trying to show numbers against what you said, and you disagreed obviously, but still you didn't try to show anything for your argument of there BEING a correlation (like in the later post you did make)...

Meh, no worries... its just billy lol


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post Jul 15 2008, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 15 2008, 02:59 PM) *
who said politician? I thought he said "ALL democrats"? lancifer.gif

I think some politicians are democrat, and if you can't see that corolation, you must be from mississippi!


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