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[impala454]

have you tried the touch screen keyboard. i like it hands down over any slide out keyboard with buttons. it took about a day to get used to. a little weird at first because there's no cue that a button is pressed, but now i type 80 words a minute.

I have tried it before on my phone (there is a very good clone of it for WM) and it is nice, but I'm just the type who likes touchscreen for certain things, buttons for others. Just as an example, I can hit the windows key, up, up, right, down, click, and I know in a sec I'll have my traffic web page up (without looking at the screen). Also having the place call & end call buttons are nice.

It's not a dealbreaker though, just my own preference.

[impala454]

Engadget's first behind the scenes at the show:

Sorry, we don't have pictures but Apple took us into a dramatically lit back-room to check out the new iPhone 3G. Here's what you need to know:

We did a quick data test -- at our location we went from 104Kbps on the EDGE iPhone to 215Kbps on the 3G model. 2x ain't bad, yo.
The enable/disable 3G setting is real, and buried a few menus deep. There is no automatic switching, Apple just assumes you'll leave 3G on, and that the iPhone has the juice to support that usage.
It's tri-band 3G, as we reported the other day. This same phone will ship worldwide.
WiFi is still 802.11b/g, no support for n yet.
Yes, that GPS is A-GPS, just as we mentioned.
Geotagging photos is a thumbs-up. We were deep indoors though, so native GPS wasn't working and we couldn't get a clear idea of satellite acquisition time.

The screen looks exactly the same -- maybe a tiny bit brighter, but the unit was new, so it'd be negligible.
The camera is identical to the first -- 2 megapixels. No front-facing camera (of course).
It's certainly thicker feeling, but they rocked it Treo-style and really tapered those edges, so it just doesn't feel that different. But because of that curved back, it'll dance around on your table a little more than your completely-flat original iPhone.
The plastic back didn't feel too cheap. In fact, it felt pretty solid. It's very glossy, so it'll pick up fingerprints just as well as the glass up front (yay).
It comes with a ridiculously, absurdly small power adapter. It basically looks like a tiny square with a USB port on one side, and power prongs on the other. It will power any other iDevice (iPod touch, 1st gen iPhone, etc.), and sell separately for those that want a smaller adapter.
The dock (now sold separately) and adapter (if you want an extra) will both go for something like $29, although that price is not yet confirmed.
No mention was made of copy/paste, MMS, etc.
It doesn't look like this thing is going to fit in your old dock. The new dock does look smaller and more sculpted to the new iPhone's curves.
The headphone jack is flush, as mentioned. It's still 3.5mm, so if you don't like the out of box phones (which won't stay in our ears), bring your own, no problem -- and no adapter needed!
Yes, original iPhones are totally gone, you won't be seeing those made anymore. Long live the aluminum back!
It looks like they took an amazing device and made it significantly better. If the battery life is as good as they claim, we think this will steamroll the competition in the enterprise space. And even if it doesn't, at $199 it's going to be extremely hard for people to resist.

[Hartmann]

No mention of copy and paste bugs me a little.

[theIncredibleEdi...]

What's this supposed crap about you HAVING to activate the phone in-store? (Sure puts a bump in the road for those t-mobile folks who will wanna jail break one.)
And what's this about unlimited data being an EXTRA $10 a month (making it $29.99 a month)???

[Mommy]

A yahoo article is saying that yeah, the price of the phone will be cheaper but all the hidden fees will make it the same price, if not more expensive.

[impala454]

Yeah they mentioned that on the radio this morning. save $200 on the phone, but $10 x 24 months nulls it out.

SHEEP

[theIncredibleEdi...]

THAT'S FUCKING GAY!!!

[rabble]

How dare they charge me for phone service, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!

[dauss]

So, if you want to transfer music and movies on your iPhone without paying for it, do you have to install iTunes on your computer? I assume that if you want to download music and movies on the phone, you have to pay for it through iTunes? Just curious, I don't think I've ever bought an Apple product before.

[cmac]

yes you need itunes.
if you want to download movies and music on the phone itself you use the iTunes store on the phone.

[rabble]

But you don't need to buy the music or movies, just import them into the iTunes library. I have my DVDs ripped and I watch them on my iPhone.

So you can rip your "own" movies and music and play them.

[dauss]

That's a problem. Though iPods are cool, I bought a Creative Zen years back because I didn't want to have to use some propriety software to use the device.

[impala454]

How dare they charge me for phone service, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!

uh, jackass, they raised the price of the service, not added a charge for something that was free. $20->$30 is a pretty significant jump in price.

[rabble]

uh, jackass, they raised the price of the service, not added a charge for something that was free. $20->$30 is a pretty significant jump in price.

Yes I know, thats what I was talking about, how dare they charge me for a service, HOW DARE A COMPANY MAKE ANY MONEY BY PROVIDING ME GOODS AND SERVICES (regardless of how useful the good/service is)

Here is a tip "Jackass," you don't have to fucking buy one, hows that for saving some money so you can go spend it on pork rinds or whatever you fat people eat.

[Mommy]

wow.. Ira... come on, now. You're kinda being irrational here.