Is Sexism still a big issue in the U.S.? Options

[Inferia]

I guess it is pretty obvious where I get this subject line. I read a paper awhile ago, which I re-read later called "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" by Peggy McIntosh. Anyway, the paper dealt with race, but in the beginning she touched upon the "male privilege".

"... I have often noticed men's unwillingness to grant that they are overprivileged, even though they may grant that women are disadvantaged. They may say they will work to women's statues, in the society, the university, or the curriculum, but they can't or won't support the idea of lessening men's. Denials that amount to taboos surround the subject of advantages that men gain from women's disadvantages. These denials protect male privilege from being fully acknwledge, lessened, or ended... as male are taught not to recognize male privilege... We in women's studies work to reveal male privilege and ask men to give up some of their power... After I realized the extent to which men wok from a base of unacknowledged privilege, I understood that much of their oppressiveness was unconscious..."

* Note that this paper was written in the late 1980s, and the excess ellipses is because it's an article on race which I tried to take out.

There were complaints from the Hillary camp that she lost because she is female, that (some) people recognize that it is difficulty for a biracial candidate to run for president, while she a female does not get the same recognition. That there is still a double standard on how we view females. Sorry this is not very well expressed, I hope you catch my drift.

I can't figure out how to make this into a poll, so...

[Mommy]

Some were saying Hillary lost because she tried too hard to avoid the topic of being a woman. Had she focused on woman empowerment, she may have won the nomination.

[impala454]

I don't think it's a big issue. I think both sides are fairly equally sexist.

[Mommy]

Boys are smelly

[woody]

hillary lost cause she's a power-hungry douche
take teresa heinz in 04, no one liked her cause she was a douche too, that cost her husband some pts

doesn't matter what sex you, just cause you're a female or some other minority doesn't make you worth anything. at some point that shit goes out the window and you gotta rely on what you know and what you can get done

[Dogmeat]

if you're a woman or a minority you're automatically gaurenteed getting a job from virtually any government agency or large corporation you're even slightly REMOTLEY qualified for ... so no, I don't think women are disadvantaged at all.

[impala454]

I think Condoleeza Rice would make a good Prez or VP

[chook]

I think Condoleeza Rice would make a good Prez or VP

It would help the republicans seem to not be bigots!


Seriously in that paper, I hate when people want to bring other people down instead of themselves up. The whole crabs in a bucket thing.

[Mommy]

It would help the republicans seem to not be bigots!

and CNN is reporting that Obama is looking into ex military leaders for a VP... funny

[nickluto]

I would say that the problem with sexism in this country is that anytime a woman trys, but fails, to achieve something it is used as proof of institutionalized sexism.

Hillary Clinton came the closer than any woman to getting to be the president, even though she did not get her party's nomination. She had a great shot at it, but didn't quite make it.

Is the mark of a truly sexually egalitarian society the occurance that every time a woman tries to do anything a man has done, they have to succeed on the first try? If she would have won the nomination she would be heralded as "breaking into the boys club" and "paving the way for all women" and all that. But if she loses, it's proof of sexism.

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you dont. Either way you get a bunch of hairy arm pitted, bleeding hatchet-wound femenazis screaming about how men have been subjugating women since the beginning of time.

Edwards lost, Romney lost, Guliani Lost, Thompson lost...all at the same objective and before Hillary did and not one peep...Maybe women just need to learn how to be more graceful losers.

Regardless if she won the nomination or not, she still did a lot for women in politics and government. Why spoil all of that with butt-hurt whining?

[Psykopath]

I think Condoleeza Rice would make a good Prez or VP

fuck
NO

[FORSAKENR320]

Edwards lost, Romney lost, Guliani Lost, Thompson lost...all at the same objective and before Hillary did and not one peep...Maybe women just need to learn how to be more graceful losers.

Regardless if she won the nomination or not, she still did a lot for women in politics and government. Why spoil all of that with butt-hurt whining?

yea, hillary was NOT a graceful loser from her concession speech, and the butt hurt whining (i also see as her concession speech) seriously validated sexism a little to me when watching it. it's wrong, but hey, i really don't see women leading by example to be equals to men. for every progressive female i meet trying to break out of the mold, i run into 10 that blindly reinforce the female stereotypes.

[Seeker]

get back in the kitchen!

[impala454]

fuck
NO

how come?

[Seeker]

how come?

maybe because she's an evil neo-con who only got in the bush-cabinet due to affirmative action and to make the republican party look like they care about blacks?