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post Jun 10 2008, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 10 2008, 10:09 AM) *
Jay-Z is white people rap...

call me back when Obama is listening to Rick Ross or somethin


"WHITE ON WHITE THAT'S FUCKIN ROWWSSSEEE"
but Jay-Z still talks about bangin bitches and hos. And I don't think Jay-z is white rap. Also, been watching a lot of reports on the debate of Obama's ethnicity. He calls himself black, but he is just as much white as he is black. I don't really care if the man calls himself black, but I guess some people get all uppity when he identifies himself as black instead of biracial.
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 10 2008, 10:14 AM) *
Also, been watching a lot of reports on the debate of Obama's ethnicity. He calls himself black, but he is just as much white as he is black. I don't really care if the man calls himself black, but I guess some people get all uppity when he identifies himself as black instead of biracial.


Apparently there's a sentiment that Obama isn't really "black" (in an American sense) because his ancestors were not slaves. So, while he's certainly a person of color, from their point of view, it doesn't really count, so to speak.

I guess I can kind of see where they're coming from, but it isn't something that I am at all concerned about.

I actually kind of like to think of Obama as the first post-racial candidate.
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:33 AM
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Him listening to Jay-Z is only going to help him. The youth will relate better or think they have more of a connection to someone that listens to their music. How do I know this? Because my students say nearly the exact same thing when they hear me roll into school with my bass thumping; wish I could say I did it to have a better connection with my students, but that's just how I listen to my music.


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post Jun 10 2008, 09:43 AM
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It's just weird that a 46 year old presidential candidate listens to "gangsta rap"
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 10 2008, 10:14 AM) *
but Jay-Z still talks about bangin bitches and hos. And I don't think Jay-z is white rap.

Jay-Z is the old retired man of rap. he may have had songs like that early on in his career but his stuff over the last several years has been more talkin about money and his career than anything. he's mostly definitely white people rap. nothing wrong with that, I like him, but I would guess that listening to him doesn't exactly validate Obama's "blackness".

QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 10 2008, 10:43 AM) *
It's just weird that a 46 year old presidential candidate listens to "gangsta rap"

lol again, jay-z is far from "gangsta rap"
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 10 2008, 10:47 AM) *
Jay-Z is the old retired man of rap. he may have had songs like that early on in his career but his stuff over the last several years has been more talkin about money and his career than anything. he's mostly definitely white people rap. nothing wrong with that, I like him, but I would guess that listening to him doesn't exactly validate Obama's "blackness".


lol again, jay-z is far from "gangsta rap"
I just think of Jay-Z as in the same class as Tupac, Biggie, Sean Combs, Snoop, Dr. Dre... you know, older rap icons/ people that black people who love hip hop idolize. Sure, now he is "soft" but he hasn't always been that way.
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:54 AM
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unless he listens to NWA or some old OG shit, it ain't gansta rap...

personally, i don't think "gangsta rap" exists anymore, it's all about $$$ and it's become a business.


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post Jun 10 2008, 09:58 AM
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I was kidding about the gangsta rap part...hence why it is in quotes

Every black person into hip hop that I know listens to DMX, Jay-Z, Tupac, Biggie, etc.

I don't know. I'm from Texas. What do any of us really know?
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:59 AM
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that there's alot of rappers who rap about making it big and having money to toss on stippers and hoes and end up having a less successful career than new kids on the block


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post Jun 10 2008, 10:03 AM
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and now I'm lost...
I've never heard a song by New Kids on the Block so I don't know the extent of their popularity
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post Jun 10 2008, 10:11 AM
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New Kids were the N-Sync and Backstreet Boys of the late 80's/early 90's, I think. Remember this one older girl I knew when I was only wee high having posters and listening to their music all the time, much like my sister did when she got older and listened to the boy bands of her time.

I could be completely wrong though.

As for gangsta rap, it definitely still exists - it's just not mainstream anymore. If you have XM Radio, turn to channel 66. I couldn't tell you any of their names, sadly, but I never could spout that shit off.


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post Jun 10 2008, 10:16 AM
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DMX and Jay-Z are nowhere near in the same category.
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post Jun 10 2008, 10:18 AM
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Goddamn people, how the hell do you not remember NKOTB?

They were just another crappy boy band, like Menudo before and Nsync/BSB afterwards. But unlike Nsync/BSB, they didn't sustain success over several albums. They were a one hit wonder with The Right Stuff. They released a single afterwards but it wasn't nearly as popular. Then they disappeared, which is what the world wanted and needed

I wonder how embarrassed Mark Wahlberg is when he looks back and remembers this


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post Jun 10 2008, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ Jun 10 2008, 11:18 AM) *
Goddamn people, how the hell do you not remember NKOTB?

They were just another crappy boy band, like Menudo before and Nsync/BSB afterwards. But unlike Nsync/BSB, they didn't sustain success over several albums. They were a one hit wonder with The Right Stuff. They released a single afterwards but it wasn't nearly as popular. Then they disappeared, which is what the world wanted and needed

I wonder how embarrassed Mark Wahlberg is when he looks back and remembers this
I think I'm honestly too young to have been a listener of NKOTB... In fact, first time I ever heard of them was in a LFO song. I wasn't allowed to listen to much music when I was little. I would sneak around and listen to rap, but only because my friends did. By the time my parents let me listen to music again, the age of BSB had arisen. I loved Backstreet Boys when I was 13.
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post Jun 10 2008, 12:25 PM
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New Kids on the Block was like late 80s early 90s, she was like 5-6 years old when they were big
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