The 10 Most Worthless College Majors Options

[Dogmeat]

you're still in the box because as soon as you got out of the box you built up another box around you

There is no outside of any box. There is no inside of any box. There might be a box, but then again, it could be a round square, or a square circle. Humans can only think to a certain extent. You have to about kill yourself by self-induced natural causes ... meaning, you have to basically decided you're going to die then die without any help ... i mean no deliberate suicide, you just literally have to shut your body off .... to see more than 4 dimensions for yourself. It's tough, but once you've reached that point, you can find yourself there more often than others, albeit randomly. I've been trying my whole life to figure out any kind of correlation between being on a hyperdimensional plane of thought and what triggered it in 4-dimensional space .... I haven't been able to do so yet. There are others amongst the humans who have this capability, however, to my knowledge, no one has harnessed it yet. Many have tried and even made such claims, but were this true .... things on this planet would be different. Very different.

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[impala454]

[Mommy]

Some of the greatest political philosophers paved the way for our government. As stated before, if you know anything about government and law, you know that Rawls and Locke wrote significant works that our Constitution was based off of.

Philosophers can also get jobs at hospitals serving on the ethics committee.

Philosophy degrees can also get you in the door to places that a psychology undergad degree can. If you have ever taken an intro to psychology course, the first thing they teach you is that psychology began as a branch of philosophy.

I've worked some pretty cool jobs in my day all because I had a bachelor's degree and knew how to write well. If you aren't sure exactly what path you want to take in life and see undergrad as simply a pathway to a graduate degree, then I can definitely see where majoring in a liberal art would be useful. Remember, a lot of you spent 5 years working on your BS in engineering. It took me a little under 3 years to get my BA in philosophy. I had no credits entering school. I'm definitely not bragging about that. I'm just saying it was the cheaper route at the time. Once I finished, I worked for a while, decided I wanted to pursue journalism, and enrolled in undergrad again. Why did I chose undergrad instead of grad school for journalism (I could have just as easily entered into the grad program)? It was yet again cheaper. I only needed 2 semesters of courses for another BA. A Master's would have taken longer. Guess that worked out well for me because I finished 2 months before the baby is due. Definitely wasn't a planned pregnancy, but it something that I am very very happy about and wouldn't ever change.

I guess my point is, there is absolutely no difference in value between any of the liberal arts degrees *shock* including psychology *shock* at the UNDERGRAD level. They are though in fact useful degrees but not in the same way as an engineering degree or nursing degree. It's just a different route to take.

[chook]

expanding the consciousness of humanity, pondering our roots and where we're headed, perhaps bringing us all closer together and ending the hate... basically, educating us all so we don't turn out like you where everything is in black/white terms

that is nice, but i don't see much from anyone claiming to be a professional philosophier, just from people thinking while they live.

[woody]

Ok, I'll clarify my thoughts on the whole philosophy thing.

Basically everything I've ever talked to a philosophy major about in life, thought about, lied awake at night trying to figure out, etc .... whatever .... I thought of when I was between the ages of 14 and 20.

There was absolutley nothing left for philosophy to teach me in college. I seriously was laughing my ass off at all the people going "OMG! I've never thought like this before!" when my professor was likening the reason Socrates believed there was a god to why mankind built chairs. I mean I was literally like "uhhhh ... what? You've never questioned the existance of god before? life, nothing? Wow you live in a damp paper bag."

Egotistically, I freely admit ... I thought this all was far beneath the level of thought I was on.

If you want to talk about thinking outside the box ... That's usually the first place I think, because quite frankly, boxes are boring. However, most of the time, there's a reason that there are boxes. Boxes work. Deluding yourself into thinking that quasi-boxes, round boxes, slightly discolored boxes, whatever, work better than the regular old box ... well, statistically speaking is rare. There is a reason there are boxes and not oddly shaped quasiboxes.

See, when you're thinking outside the box, eventually you run out of boxes to think outside of, so you invent new boxes entirley. Then you think outside of them. I invented this new theory called the 'Puking Seed' theory when i was back in highschool, but that's a time for another discussion.

Anyways .... I guess I pretty much felt like if a dipshit like me was already on a plane of thought far beyond what this philosophy crap was supposed to be about I had no use for it whatsoever for it in life and it was pretty much just a load of hooey.

heh

But what's really interesting is, if I go back to school to get a PhD in engineering I don't get an actual PhD in engineering, I get a "Doctorate of Philosophy".

Fascinating ...

How many philosophy classes did you take?

[Dogmeat]

How many philosophy classes did you take?

One, but it wouldn't have mattered ... "Ooooohhh and Aaaaaaah'ing" myself with gee-whiz brain tricks is quite literally beneath me even now.

[Oasis]

Ok, I'll clarify my thoughts on the whole philosophy thing.

Basically everything I've ever talked to a philosophy major about in life, thought about, lied awake at night trying to figure out, etc .... whatever .... I thought of when I was between the ages of 14 and 20.

There was absolutley nothing left for philosophy to teach me in college. I seriously was laughing my ass off at all the people going "OMG! I've never thought like this before!" when my professor was likening the reason Socrates believed there was a god to why mankind built chairs. I mean I was literally like "uhhhh ... what? You've never questioned the existance of god before? life, nothing? Wow you live in a damp paper bag."

Egotistically, I freely admit ... I thought this all was far beneath the level of thought I was on.

If you want to talk about thinking outside the box ... That's usually the first place I think, because quite frankly, boxes are boring. However, most of the time, there's a reason that there are boxes. Boxes work. Deluding yourself into thinking that quasi-boxes, round boxes, slightly discolored boxes, whatever, work better than the regular old box ... well, statistically speaking is rare. There is a reason there are boxes and not oddly shaped quasiboxes.

See, when you're thinking outside the box, eventually you run out of boxes to think outside of, so you invent new boxes entirley. Then you think outside of them. I invented this new theory called the 'Puking Seed' theory when i was back in highschool, but that's a time for another discussion.

Anyways .... I guess I pretty much felt like if a dipshit like me was already on a plane of thought far beyond what this philosophy crap was supposed to be about I had no use for it whatsoever for it in life and it was pretty much just a load of hooey.

heh

But what's really interesting is, if I go back to school to get a PhD in engineering I don't get an actual PhD in engineering, I get a "Doctorate of Philosophy".

Fascinating ...

You know, you're pretty smart when you aren't talking about cumslutting on underage girls

[Mommy]

Dogmeat takes an intro to philosophy class, thinks he knows everything on the subject, and then Will comes in here and agrees with him... oh this is laughable

[THECHICKEN]

Socrates was a jackass

[Mommy]

I'll second that.

Frankly, I enjoy metaphysics the most.

[Oasis]

Dogmeat takes an intro to philosophy class, thinks he knows everything on the subject, and then Will comes in here and agrees with him... oh this is laughable

I don't need to be an expert in philosophy to realize it's pretty much a worthless degree. I learn how to think through things called common sense and life experience, whereas you learned the same thing by wasting three years of your life and about 40 thousand dollars in college. Granted, I can't quote Socrates verbatim, but that really doesn't matter, since I've never found the need to quote Socrates in my life, nor will I in the future. Somehow I doubt you quote him at all in your life either.

It's funny that you used to make fun of your degree when we were together, but now whenever someone makes fun of it on a messageboard you get butt hurt. Now that is laughable

[Mommy]

Will, you really are ignorant sometimes. If you want to talk about stuff we told each other, you said yourself that your business classes were pointless. I would venture to say just as "useless," if not more so, than my philosophy classes.... for obvious reasons that I won't say so as to avoid the low blows.
If you still think that all a philosophy class teaches is how to "think things through" then you are even more ignorant. In fact, that's really not what it is about at all. Philosophy, in my opinion is a mix of English, history, and math. I like all three a great deal. In my classes, we were graded on our grammar, spelling, and punctuation in the papers we wrote = English. We had to learn a great deal about great thinkers in the past like Frank, Descartes, Locke, Rawls = history. Finally, logic is math without numbers. It's basically balancing giant equations = math. I have it in my mind to post a paper or two I wrote on metaphysics. You read part of one once and stopped because you said you didn't understand it. It's not that it doesn't make sense. It's that your mind couldn't grasp the concepts. (I know this because I got an offer to the grad program from the philosophy dept for the very paper I had you read)

I don't get "butt hurt" by ANYTHING you say. Trust me on that one.

[impala454]

I don't really feel that any degree is "worthless", because just about any college degree will help you get a job. but to those getting upset that their degree was in the list, I'd be interested to see your top 10 list of common degrees which are worth the least. ("worth" as in $$)

[Mommy]

I don't really feel that any degree is "worthless", because just about any college degree will help you get a job. but to those getting upset that their degree was in the list, I'd be interested to see your top 10 list of common degrees which are worth the least. ("worth" as in $$)

that's why I put "useless" in quotes. I agree with you. A degree gets you in the door to jobs that require a degree. Once you are in the door, it doesn't matter what degree you have. It matters how you perform your job. That's where the $$$ comes in.
I never said a philosophy degree would land you a job that will make anything close to what you engineers and computer programmers are making STARTING OUT. My point is that it is no more "useless" than a history, English literature, psychology degree etc. (unless of course you are certified to become a teacher in those areas)