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impala454
post Jun 2 2008, 03:45 PM
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MS Warns hardware makers to start testing now
http://www.informationweek.com/news/window...RSSfeed_IWK_All
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In an effort to avoid a repeat of the compatibility problems that plagued the launch of its Windows Vista operating system last year, Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT) has ordered computer and other hardware makers to begin testing their devices on the forthcoming Windows 7 OS as soon as the first beta version becomes available.

so i guess if you're thinkin about vista (at least, actually paying for it), prob a good idea to wait.
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:47 PM
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win 7 will suck even worse than vista
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post Jun 2 2008, 03:54 PM
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DUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!
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post Jun 2 2008, 05:51 PM
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hmm, they ordering companies?


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post Jun 2 2008, 06:54 PM
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heh..

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post Jun 5 2008, 03:39 PM
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Windows 7 looks pretty awesome. I think Microsoft has finally gotten its head out of its ass about a lot of things. But I think Windows Vista was proof that they can fail at doing the best ideas, so I'm skeptical.


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post Jun 5 2008, 03:50 PM
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I haven't really read much about it yet, but noticed it will not be backwards compatible. Should speed it up a ton, but make it more of a headache to upgrade. Although with windows I'd never upgrade, I always do a fresh install anyhow.

here's an article on it:
http://windows7news.com/2008/05/23/windows...-compatibility/
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Previous versions of Windows provided backwards compatibility with older versions of windows, making it easy for users to upgrades as their favorite programs would still work.

However, with Windows 7 Microsoft are approaching backwards compatibility differently, and Windows 7 will not be binary compatible with older versions. This won’t mean that older programs won’t run, but that virtualisation will be used to make them run. The key drivers for this are performance improvements, but also in an attempt to sidestep regulatory programs.

Vista struggles with performance because Microsoft choose to incorporate regulatory challenged features like Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player using a modular design, rather than the monolithic processes used in previous versions of windows. The greater use of componentisation led to performance issues due to the increased number of libraries within the operating system. Simply put, the more separate files your hard drive has to load, the slower your system is going to run.

Another reason why Vista runs so slowly is:

The operating system stores multiple copies of core system libraries, as each revision of a library typically adds/removes functions, and applications compiled with dynamic links to a specific version of a DLL file may call on functions not present in the currently installed library. Vista aims to solve this issue through the WinSxS collection; essentially a massive store of every differing version of libraries present on the system. That way, when an application makes a call for a dynamically linked library, Vista queries the WinSxS cache for the correct version, which is then loaded into memory. On the average system, this directory can be several gigabytes in size, with much of the code duplicated between the separate versions many times.

By not being binary compatible with previous versions of Windows and being built from the ground up, will give Windows 7 significant performance improvements. This will make it easier for developers to produce faster apps as they won’t have to worry about backwards compatibility, but it will increase the upgrade pain for users who may find that some of their existing applications will no longer work and will need upgrading.

Where do you lie on the trade-off between compatibility and speed? Do you think Microsoft are making a mistake here?
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post Jun 5 2008, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 5 2008, 04:50 PM) *
I haven't really read much about it yet, but noticed it will not be backwards compatible. Should speed it up a ton, but make it more of a headache to upgrade. Although with windows I'd never upgrade, I always do a fresh install anyhow.

here's an article on it:
http://windows7news.com/2008/05/23/windows...-compatibility/


I think that will be the best thing for microsoft considering Win32 really hasn't changed much since WIndows 95. I would hope it would come with some decent virtualization technology though.


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post Jun 6 2008, 04:57 PM
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i have a good feeling about W7, but i'll reserve judgement till i see something concrete.


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