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cmac
post May 21 2008, 02:09 PM
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i'm just not keen on tearing up some of the most beautiful portions of land in the lower united states. i think it runs right through yellowstone. mountains and rivers sort of lose their mystique surrounded by oil rigs.


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post May 21 2008, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 21 2008, 02:09 PM) *
i'm just not keen on tearing up some of the most beautiful portions of land in the lower united states. i think it runs right through yellowstone. mountains and rivers sort of lose their mystique surrounded by oil rigs.


Dude the green river formation is mainly northeastern utah and western colorado .... it's nowhere near yellowstone. And it's under 6-9,000 feet or so of overburden in most places we drill into it smile.gif heh smile.gif


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post May 21 2008, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 21 2008, 02:09 PM) *
i'm just not keen on tearing up some of the most beautiful portions of land in the lower united states. i think it runs right through yellowstone. mountains and rivers sort of lose their mystique surrounded by oil rigs.


You're probably talking about the Pinedale Anticline....that's not even really "near" Yellowstone, but a bunch of enviro whackos are claiming it's part of the "Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem" when it's really that a bunch of rich ass actors and billionairs got sick of Jackson Hole being such a tourist trap so they all bought ranches and land in "Wannabe Jackson" and have been doing everything they can to buy off state senators and local federal employees to stop development of the fields around there ...


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post May 21 2008, 02:14 PM
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did i see that man use the words "trillion", "barrels", and "oil" in the same sentence, describing a location within the United States of America!?!?

I THINK HE DID
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post May 21 2008, 02:24 PM
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so maybe not right through yellowstone, but in the vicinity. and still through some of the most beautiful parts of the country. i didn't move to this area (roughly) to see it ripped apart.

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The area of the formation exists as three separate basins around the Uinta Mountains of northeastern Utah: an area in northwestern Colorado east of the Uintas, a larger area in the southwest corner of Wyoming just north of the Uintas known as Lake Gosiute, and the largest area, which lies in northeastern Utah and western Colorado south of the Uintas, known as Lake Uinta.


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post May 21 2008, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 02:14 PM) *
did i see that man use the words "trillion", "barrels", and "oil" in the same sentence, describing a location within the United States of America!?!?

I THINK HE DID


The oil shale development up here has all but come to a grinding hault ... they can't figure out how to dispose of, or treat the large amounts of wastewater it generates ...

There's a Shell research lab out in the middle of nowhere kinda by Meeker, Colorado I used to drive by on the way to work every day ... you'd rarley even see parked cars out there. I don't think they're eve using it anymore..

Could be wrong, but that's my understanding of it.

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so maybe not right through yellowstone, but in the vicinity. and still through some of the most beautiful parts of the country. i didn't move to this area (roughly) to see it ripped apart.


Dude Yellowstone is fucking 400 miles from here.

You don't even live here, so how are you seeing it "ripped apart"?

What'd you move to Denver and now Yellowstone is your back yard? rolleyes.gif


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post May 21 2008, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 21 2008, 01:25 PM) *
Dude Yellowstone is fucking 400 miles from here.

You don't even live here, so how are you seeing it "ripped apart"?

What'd you move to Denver and now Yellowstone is your back yard? rolleyes.gif


fine i said it doesn't run right through yellowstone. but "still through some of the most beautiful parts of the country." and yes, i enjoy spending the majority of my time outdoors, in utah, wyoming, colorado, and whatever. backcountry snowboarding mostly. i don't think that oil derricks look that attractive on top of mountains. all i'm saying. pretty sure i never said yellowstone was my backyard. and pretty sure i never said i was seeing anything. i said i didn't want to see anything. thanks though


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post May 21 2008, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 21 2008, 02:39 PM) *
fine i said it doesn't run right through yellowstone. but "still through some of the most beautiful parts of the country." and yes, i enjoy spending the majority of my time outdoors, in utah, wyoming, colorado, and whatever. backcountry snowboarding mostly. i don't think that oil derricks look that attractive on top of mountains. all i'm saying. pretty sure i never said yellowstone was my backyard. and pretty sure i never said i was seeing anything. i said i didn't want to see anything. thanks though


Who is putting oil derricks on tops of mountains? That just adds what, another how many thousand feet to the well you're trying to drill? tongue.gif

There are places that some consider "in the mountains" that limited drilling occurs. Portions of the Wyoming range in southwestern Wyoming are being proposed for new exploration, but the proposed areas is something like less than %1 of the Wyoming range as a whole, and it's most assuredly "not on top" of the mountains. It would be more like in one small area of the foothills.

I've lived in the rockies my entire life except for the 2.5 yers I was in texas, and I have yet to see an oil derrick on top of a mountain.


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post May 21 2008, 02:45 PM
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well its not like the whole countryside would be turned into a barren oil wasteland or something.
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post May 21 2008, 02:47 PM
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semantics. you know what i mean...


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post May 21 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 21 2008, 02:45 PM) *
well its not like the whole countryside would be turned into a barren oil wasteland or something.


I'm not going to insult anyone's intelligence by saying there's no "environmental impact" by developing an oil or natural gas field. What I will say however is that the "impact" is grossley exaggerated by opponents of developments, and they come up with the most outlandish rediculous reasons that development should be suspended or never allowed in the first place it just boggles my mind.


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post May 21 2008, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 21 2008, 03:47 PM) *
semantics. you know what i mean...

not semantics... over-exaggeration
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post May 21 2008, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ May 21 2008, 03:09 PM) *
i'm just not keen on tearing up some of the most beautiful portions of land in the lower united states. i think it runs right through yellowstone. mountains and rivers sort of lose their mystique surrounded by oil rigs.


Oh no! I might have to see oil rigs when I take my family sightseeing!

Reality check:
You won't be able to enjoy those beautiful locations when rising gas prices make it impossible to afford to visit them

Sacrifice the economic wellbeing of the ENTIRE COUNTRY because you don't want to destroy a glorified family tourist attraction. Go to hell. You're just as bad as the futures traders who gouge the market


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post May 21 2008, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (Oasis @ May 21 2008, 02:57 PM) *
Oh no! I might have to see oil rigs when I take my family sightseeing!

Reality check:
You won't be able to enjoy those beautiful locations when rising gas prices make it impossible to afford to visit them

Sacrifice the economic wellbeing of the ENTIRE COUNTRY because you don't want to destroy a glorified family tourist attraction. Go to hell. You're just as bad as the futures traders who gouge the market


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post May 21 2008, 03:02 PM
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i make good money. i don't care about gas prices for me. i care about them for other people. i can afford to go anywhere.
and excuse me.....somewhere in those three states upon the soil of the earth oil derricks will be placed. jesus.


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