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May 4 2008, 01:18 AM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
So are people who vote for Democrats because they think they'll save the world problem is that lots of republicans suck to. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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May 4 2008, 01:20 AM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
problem is that lots of republicans suck to. Yeah, but at least they aren't completley naive about the way the world works ... -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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May 4 2008, 02:24 AM
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![]() Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Yeah, but at least they aren't completley naive about the way the world works ... -------------------- |
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May 4 2008, 02:47 AM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I don't know how the world works, but I can make assumptions and live my life according to those assumptions. There are things that I care about when it comes to the environment like plastic bags. Then there are things that are just nonsense to me... like not using aerosol hairspray and stuff. I said it once and I'll say it again: every single one of us is using up the earth's resources every single day of our lives. It's inevitable, and we can't avoid it. Arguing over this is obviously becoming a moot point. We live our lives according to how we perceive the world. Some of us feel we know how it is, but when it all boils down to it, we are either wasting resources and just not giving a damn OR wasting resources without realizing it all while sitting on a high horse acting like we are saving the planet. Both are wrong.
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May 8 2008, 09:04 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/12661711.html
QUOTE Open Letter To Environmentalists Thank you for your dedication to protecting our environment. Clean air and clean water are essential to preserving life on planet Earth. Protecting all species and natural lands and forests are admirable priorities. Recycling and a green lifestyle are wonderful. Making the environment the most important thing in your life is a good thing, not a problem. I support you. But we do have a problem. You have vigorously embraced the Global Warming predictions of the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and are using the warning of uncontrollable warming and a resulting environmental calamity to campaign for elimination of fossil fuels. Your environmentally conscious friends in politics and in the media have united with you to create a barrage of news reports, documentaries, TV feature reports, movies, books, concerts and protest events to build support for your goals. The war against fossil fuels has become a massive scare campaign that is giving children nightmares. Here's what's wrong with that: the science is not valid. There is no Global Warming underway and the science on which the computer projections of weather chaos are based is wrong. Dead wrong. I know many scientists are part of your movement and they have tried hard to give your uncontrollable climate change panic a scientific basis. The UN Climate Change Panel has a large staff, a big budget, a headquarters in Geneva and a strong champion in Al Gore to lead the charge. And thousands of well-intentioned politicians and the media of the world have supported your movement. It must seem to you that there can be no doubt: fossil fuels are destroying the environment and will lead to uncontrollable global warming unless we act now. With all that powerful support for your anti-fossil fuel movement, and with the worthy goal of saving the planet from the disastrous consequences of runaway Global Warming, how can you fail? Here's how: The science behind your global warming scare is bad and no anthropogenic global warming is happening. Dissenting scientists have now produced convincing evidence that the cornerstone of your scientific argument, increased atmospheric carbon dioxide forcing a rapid, irreversible rise in temperature, is invalid. All of the various "signs of global warming" you have so widely publicized have been proven wrong. They are normal variations in climate that result mostly from the cycles of the Sun. As the Sun cycle has changed in the last three or four years, they have reversed themselves. Arctic ice melting and polar bears dying, shrinkage of glaciers and the rise of ocean levels, increased intensity and number of hurricanes and intensified droughts have all been touted as signs of global warming. They are not. They are part of this natural variation in climate. The intensified hurricane claim never happened. Katrina was an isolated, random event. The droughts are part of the natural cycle and are reversing at this time. Glaciers are stabilizing. The Arctic ice cap is already back to normal. Here is what I am suggesting you do. Campaign for your environmental goals on the basis of their own merit. Let go of the global warming frenzy before it leaves you discredited and embarrassed. Stop screaming, "The sky is falling." It is not. Do your good work. Devote your lives to our environment. In many ways you will succeed. We are all grateful for your love of the planet. But, don't use scare tactics. Most of all I urge you not to become extremists. And, may I encourage you to live your lives in a loving way, love your fellow human beings and our wonderful advanced standard of living and way of life as much as you love the Earth. My very best regards, John Coleman P.s. - If you will read my briefs on the science that debunks the global warming frenzy and follow the links there, you will begin to realize the folly of Global Warming. Go to ICECAP.us for a starter. I guess Cathryn knows more about atmospheric fluid dynamics than this guy does. We should all write him an email and tell him he's an idiot because Al Gore is Jesus. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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May 8 2008, 10:02 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
Well regardless of any proof or science, the guy does a good job to separate the care of the environment from the global warming scare tactics. All too often it seems that if you do not believe the global warming scare, those on the other side will immediately peg you as someone who doesn't care about stuff like clean air & water or recycling or efficiency.
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May 8 2008, 10:05 PM
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![]() Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Well regardless of any proof or science, the guy does a good job to separate the care of the environment from the global warming scare tactics. All too often it seems that if you do not believe the global warming scare, those on the other side will immediately peg you as someone who doesn't care about stuff like clean air & water or recycling or efficiency. ...People like Dogmeat, you mean? -------------------- |
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May 8 2008, 10:10 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I didn't say that stereotype never fits. Just that with the global warming pundits that they tend to immediately apply that stereotype to anyone who doesn't think we're all doomed from CO2 emissions.
that site, http://www.icecap.us , pretty sweet |
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May 8 2008, 10:12 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
this page in particular is nice:
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/faqs-and-myths paging Cat to use her PhD in algoreology to debunk everything on that page |
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May 9 2008, 03:37 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
-------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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May 9 2008, 05:34 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
that site is supppper generalized. i could take the science of anything dumb it down for some retards and totally change the actual meanings!
-------------------- Little monkeys making money
Naked monkey looking funny Mighty males are strong and free Female monkey, not so lucky Rocking monkeys, funky monkeys Monkeys sticking other monkeys Monkeys wrong or monkeys right Mostly flexing monkey might |
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May 9 2008, 05:46 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
that site is supppper generalized. i could take the science of anything dumb it down for some retards and totally change the actual meanings! i think you should run backwards naked through a corn field -------------------- |
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May 9 2008, 05:49 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
you look like youve run backwards through the gene pool
-------------------- Little monkeys making money
Naked monkey looking funny Mighty males are strong and free Female monkey, not so lucky Rocking monkeys, funky monkeys Monkeys sticking other monkeys Monkeys wrong or monkeys right Mostly flexing monkey might |
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May 9 2008, 05:53 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
you look like youve run backwards through the gene pool oh snap! -------------------- |
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May 9 2008, 07:06 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
...People like Dogmeat, you mean? I'm going to go change my oil right on the fucking ground just for you. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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