Does more history knowledge make you more conservative? Options

[Hartmann]

I've always held the belief that there are two factions in America: conservatives and the educated.

Now that's generalization.

I think people can have conservative views and not be republicans or purely conservative. I don't think the "educated" topic really exists because there are numerous people who are educated and definitely not liberal thinkers and there uneducated people who are extremely liberal.

[impala454]

haha i just remembered that Zach has a history degree i think. he's liberal

Not intended as a knock on Zach at all, but a bachelor's history degree doesn't necessarily mean you're a history buff. I think the type he was talking about people who study it in their free time and it's like a hobby to them. Even that in mind though, I don't really think that particular type of person will think any certain way. If they're a conservative person they might use history to back them up, or if they're liberal they might think they can use it to avoid "repeating history".

And saying a conservative is different because of their views on gay marriage is getting old. One issue does not make an entire group of people's ideals up. Many conservatives' personal views are that gay marriage is wrong. It's hard to have two fundamental beliefs that are completely opposite.

Also IMHO Libertarians are the extreme in personal freedom. Nowadays it's almost bordering on anarchism.

Modern day conservatives in general may have a couple of issues, but still definitely hold true to personal freedom & small government.

[impala454]

I've always held the belief that there are two factions in America: conservatives and the educated smug assholes who think they can fix everything by throwing more taxpayer money at it.

fixed

[Seeker]

I've always held the belief that there are two factions in America: conservatives and the educated.

liberals aren't educated either

[Melanie]

Wouldn't you have to have a general liking for history in order to spend that much time studying? I'm not talking for Zach, but for myself. I read those history books and am an avid history lover.

And Poli Sci definitely must study history and the history of politics for our degrees. Well over half of my poli sci classes were history oriented. Hell, we study the history of the political scheme in certain districts, you must know the history of a district in order to figure how the votes will swing.l

[cmac]

i think smarter people are more liberal.
with the exception of texas.
yes, i know that's a very blanket statement.

[Seeker]

I've always held the belief that there are two factions in America: liberals smug assholes who think they can fix everything by throwing more taxpayer money at it and conservatives smug assholes who think they can fix everything by launching a missile at it.

fixed

fixed it for you impala

[impala454]

haha, hey man a missle can fix a lot

[Hartmann]

Wouldn't you have to have a general liking for history in order to spend that much time studying? I'm not talking for Zach, but for myself. I read those history books and am an avid history lover.

And Poli Sci definitely must study history and the history of politics for our degrees. Well over half of my poli sci classes were history oriented. Hell, we study the history of the political scheme in certain districts, you must know the history of a district in order to figure how the votes will swing.l

Political Science is the study of just that, political science and you study accordingly.

I am talking about history in general (world history, U.S. history, roman history, etc.).

I have a love of history and read every history book I can get my hands on (the people in half price books know me by name) but I have no interest in ever getting a degree in it. I enjoy reading the facts from books and opinions from generals and would probably do well in a history class in college, I just don't want it to be my career or my degree.

[impala454]

I think in general something that is a hobby will be studied far more than something that is a school requirement or job. I know I sure don't rush home from work and start coding up VoIP projects for fun.

[Mommy]

I still see very little relation between history and political science. IF ANYTHING, political science is a very small portion of history + a study of the philosophical theories. Political science can be very theoretical at times, whereas history is not.

[Psykopath]

haha i just remembered that Zach has a history degree i think. he's liberal

WTF?!
Don't label me. I'm not liberal. I'm not conservative. I'm not any motherfucking label.


That being said, the TTU History department had both admitted communists and admitted neo-(almost)fascists.


::EDIT::
Wow, those of you trying to think you understand both History degrees and Poli Sci degrees, without ever studying the fields, are way off the mark.
I'll add more when I get back.

This post has been edited by Psykopath: May 7 2008, 01:01 PM

[impala454]

I had a history teacher in high school who was dead serious in telling us his opinion that the US should take over canada & mexico and isolate ourselves from the rest of the world.

[Hartmann]

WTF?!
Don't label me. I'm not liberal. I'm not conservative. I'm not any motherfucking label.
That being said, the TTU History department had both admitted communists and admitted neo-(almost)fascists.
::EDIT::
Wow, those of you trying to think you understand both History degrees and Poli Sci degrees, without ever studying the fields, are way off the mark.
I'll add more when I get back.

You're right, I don't know what's involved in a history degree. I know there is a lot of paper writing and research, but that's about all I know. Oh, and I know that every single friend of mine who received a History degree went to law school.

[Psykopath]

History degree classes I took involved everything from the obvious (research, reading, writing papers) to the "WTF THIS IS HISTORY!?!?" (statistical analysis, geographical analysis, warfare/strategy, risk analysis).

But yes, it is a great "prep" degree for law school. 'Tis also my plan now.