HPD kills a federal agent after high speed chase? Options

[Hartmann]

yeah, it really sucks valuing life and all...

So would you rather it be one person dead or two people (a cop and this guy) dead?

[cmac]

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[impala454]

Sounds like a typical democrat type answer. All complaints and no solutions.

[cmac]

tranquilizer dart.

a bullet doesn't have to come out of a pistol.

[impala454]

that is not a solution.

[cmac]

and there's the republican type answer.
guess we just meet the stereotypes.

[impala454]

well if you give a dumbass solution that obviously wouldn't work, i'll tell you like it is. if that's a sterotype i welcome it.

[Hartmann]

But that means that a potential criminal should not be allowed to kill someone. How do you propose solving that issue?

You are trying to remove the reality from the situation by suggesting this world is one where people act in a loving manner towards each other. I, on the other hand live in reality, understanding that there are bad people in the world and blowing bubbles in their direction does not make them drop their weapon.

Now, do I think force is always necessary? Absolutely not. But, if someone is putting another person's life in harm's way and force is the only possible action to remove that threat, then so be it. You cannot tell me in all honesty that you believe force is never necessary. That's utopia and we don't live there.

How do you expect crime to be dealt with in high risk areas? Gang territory? I'd love there to be success stories in those places of good people stepping up and doing the right thing, but you know what, that is the exception rather than the rule.

[Psykopath]

Sounds like a typical democrat type answer. All complaints and no solutions.

This is just as stupid of a response as cmac's.



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At any rate, cops sometimes must utilize lethal force in order to protect themselves and others.
That's just part of the society we live in.

[cmac]

But that means that a potential criminal should not be allowed to kill someone. How do you propose solving that issue?

of course potential criminals aren't "allowed to kill someone." so what makes it right for civilians to kill potential criminals? maybe the criminals think that civilians are trying to kill them, and he's "protecting himself."
you're right, there will always be criminals that want to kill people. that is reality. but it's also reality that there is absolutely nothing that anyone can ever come up with to solve this problem. killing THEM obviously doesn't work. they still exist. so maybe we should think of something else. find another solution.
i would have liked to have heard this guy's story. why he was running. the cia side of it. his history. his story. that won't happen now.
maybe the tranquilizer thing is a little far fetched, but it's practical.
swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires life-ending bullet at criminal VS. swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires tranquilizer dart at criminal knocking him on his ass. move in. arrest. the beanbag guns exist. pretty much the same thing.
this guy could be sitting in a jail cell now and cops would have a few more answers than what they're searching for now. it's hard to question dead people.
i can, in all honesty, say i believe that force is never necessary. there are much more practical ways around any situation.
How do I expect crime to be dealt with in high risk areas and gang territory? It's not up to me, but i know that the world is full of people with very creative minds, and there is more than one solution to every problem.

[Testm0nkey]

I'm totally against gun ownership and am all for the US government stripping the right to bear arms away from everyone UNLESS they are active military (only if they're MP's or in a battlefield), police officers, special security, CPS workers - people that potentially need a lethal weapon as part of their occupation.

in a country with a serious crime problem you can't have a police force that dont have the ability to use a gun type lethal force.

just imagine it - if cops in America didn't carry guns there'd be a dozen cop killings a day. these are the people that protect us and put their lives on the line (even if some dont deserve the recognition)


edit: but in my future world where the average person doesnt have easy access to a gun, i would be for English style police forces - average cops dont have guns

[FORSAKENR320]

I'm totally against gun ownership and am all for the US government stripping the right to bear arms away from everyone UNLESS they are active military (only if they're MP's or in a battlefield), police officers, special security, CPS workers - people that potentially need a lethal weapon as part of their occupation.

in a country with a serious crime problem you can't have a police force that dont have the ability to use a gun type lethal force.

just imagine it - if cops in America didn't carry guns there'd be a dozen cop killings a day. these are the people that protect us and put their lives on the line (even if some dont deserve the recognition)

well... then it's a good thing you're a woman and no one takes your opinion seriously......

[Testm0nkey]

youre a low paid shift labor worker from a backwoods town without a college level education - the world doesnt care about your opinion either

[James]

youre a low paid shift labor worker from a backwoods town without a college level education - the world doesnt care about your opinion either

OUCH!

That was nice

[impala454]

of course potential criminals aren't "allowed to kill someone." so what makes it right for civilians to kill potential criminals? maybe the criminals think that civilians are trying to kill them, and he's "protecting himself."
you're right, there will always be criminals that want to kill people. that is reality. but it's also reality that there is absolutely nothing that anyone can ever come up with to solve this problem. killing THEM obviously doesn't work. they still exist. so maybe we should think of something else. find another solution.
i would have liked to have heard this guy's story. why he was running. the cia side of it. his history. his story. that won't happen now.
maybe the tranquilizer thing is a little far fetched, but it's practical.
swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires life-ending bullet at criminal VS. swat, wearing bullet-proof vest, hiding behind police car door, fires tranquilizer dart at criminal knocking him on his ass. move in. arrest. the beanbag guns exist. pretty much the same thing.
this guy could be sitting in a jail cell now and cops would have a few more answers than what they're searching for now. it's hard to question dead people.
i can, in all honesty, say i believe that force is never necessary. there are much more practical ways around any situation.
How do I expect crime to be dealt with in high risk areas and gang territory? It's not up to me, but i know that the world is full of people with very creative minds, and there is more than one solution to every problem.

you're absolutely delusional. come back to the real world bud. your armchair QBing of this situation is pathetic. you'd be shot dead while fumbling with your nerf gun. I love how sad it is when people decide something should be done a certain way, but then also release the responsibility of it by saying "well it's not up to me, but I think it should be done this way". How about you become a cop, and go pull over some drug dealers and we'll see just how great your bean bags & tranqs match up agains what the criminals are carrying.