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[impala454]

lookin pretty good for the last week or so. won 5 in a row, and it looks like that huge offense they were supposed to have has finally kicked in. that berkman tejada lee combo is gonna be nasty if these guys can keep it goin. not to mention the pitching hasn't been nearly as bad as everyone predicted.

[jwttu]

I think Nolan is regretting switching organizations now.

[impala454]

he technically didn't really switch his loyalties, it's just that the rangers really wanted him to work for them and offered up the cash. he still owns the round rock express.

[cmac]

soooo how old is tejada?

[impala454]

he could be 75 for all i care, sumbitch is playin like a star right now. even his defense is kicking ass.

[Oasis]

They're still retarded for trading Albers, Patton, and Luke Scott

When you need pitching, don't trade pitchers

I won't even go to Round Rock games unless they're playing Memphis (Colby Rasmus). Their farm system looks like an aborted fetus

[impala454]

Mmmmk they're retarded. Gotta get your stupid ass shot in at them even when they're doing well. Pull your nose outta the stats once in a while and watch the baseball and you might actually enjoy it.

[Oasis]

Mmmmk they're retarded. Gotta get your stupid ass shot in at them even when they're doing well. Pull your nose outta the stats once in a while and watch the baseball and you might actually enjoy it.

Yeah, I figured you'd overreact and take that as a personal affront to your lousy team.

My roommate is a huge Astros fan so I've watched nearly every game this season. I don't need stats to tell me Jose Valverde is lousy, has little command of his pitches, and is gonna blow a ton of save opportunities. Your other pitchers besides Oswalt suck as well. Dave Borkowski, Doug Brocail, Shawn Chacon, Brandon Backe, Chris Sampson, Jack Cassel, Wandy Rodriguez, Wesley Wright, Felipe Paulino, Geoff Geary, Tim Byrdak.

Do you honestly think any of those pitchers would be starting for a contender like Arizona or Boston? Chacon might be a spot starter, Rodriguez and Paulino might be 5th starters, and the rest would either get mop up middle relief duty or be relegated to triple A. And that's pretty much your entire pitching roster

I love Astros fans and their inferiority complex. Then again, I guess it's easy to get an inferiority complex when you haven't won jack shit in the 40 plus years of your franchise's history


EDIT: And what do you personally call it when a pitching starved team trades away two of their best young pitchers (Both Albers and Patton were ranked in BA's Top 10 organizational prospects), not to mention a decent hitter with 25 home run potential, for a shortstop who was rumored to be named in the Mitchell Report (and like clockwork, two days after the trade was named in the Mitchell Report) on the downswing of his career production wise? Oh, not to mention he plays a position where defensive production deteriorates at a rate much higher than other positions with age. Oh yeah, and it turns out he lied about his age, and he's actually 33, not 31. Most rational people would call that "retarded." Then again, you aren't most people and you aren't the most rational person in the world.

Dunno how long Tejada's contract is, but short stops start being a defensive liability around age 35-36. So you got about two or three more seasons before he'd be better served as a DH. Oh, wait, Houston plays in the NL where there is no designated hitter. Guess he'll switch to the outfield, where regardless of his offensive production or how the players Baltimore got in return pan out, will devalue him to the point that this trade will look retarded in retrospect.

[Mommy]

All teams have defensive fans. All teams have annoying fans. I hate when people generalize a team's fans. Seriously, besides the Aggies, all fans seem to act the same to me.

Secondly, I thought the 'stros have been doing fairly well the past few years... I mean, didn't they go to a World Series like 2-3 seasons ago?

I don't know shit about baseball though. It's fucking boring and the guys have big booties.

[impala454]

Yeah, I figured you'd overreact and take that as a personal affront to your lousy team.

hmm... anyone else see the enormous irony in this statement?

My roommate is a huge Astros fan so I've watched nearly every game this season. I don't need stats to tell me Jose Valverde is lousy, has little command of his pitches, and is gonna blow a ton of save opportunities. Your other pitchers besides Oswalt suck as well. Dave Borkowski, Doug Brocail, Shawn Chacon, Brandon Backe, Chris Sampson, Jack Cassel, Wandy Rodriguez, Wesley Wright, Felipe Paulino, Geoff Geary, Tim Byrdak.

This statement alone shows me you don't know jack shit about the 'stros. Until about a week ago, Oswalt was doing about the worst on the team. Valverde blew a couple but has 3 saves in his last 4 outings and no earned runs. Wandy and Sampson have both come out pretty well. Chacon has been bad ass his last couple outings. Doug Brocail has been awesome. Jack Cassel... was brought up from AAA when wandy went down and got a win. Paulino is injured I dunno wtf you're tryin to say w/him (other than reading off some webpage apparently). Wesley Wright has been lights out in middle relief. Talk to anyone in Houston and they'll tell you they're very surprised at how well the pitching has done.

Do you honestly think any of those pitchers would be starting for a contender like Arizona or Boston? Chacon might be a spot starter, Rodriguez and Paulino might be 5th starters, and the rest would either get mop up middle relief duty or be relegated to triple A. And that's pretty much your entire pitching roster

I don't know about, or give a shit about Arizona or Boston's pitching staff. So I'd be pretty ill equipped to answer that question.

I love Astros fans and their inferiority complex. Then again, I guess it's easy to get an inferiority complex when you haven't won jack shit in the 40 plus years of your franchise's history

And I love dipshit fair weather fans like yourself who like to try to belittle others' teams for some stupid reason. And I don't call 6 division titles and an NL pennant "jack shit". It's certainly better than some team's fans who call it a "curse" that they haven't won a title.

EDIT: And what do you personally call it when a pitching starved team trades away two of their best young pitchers (Both Albers and Patton were ranked in BA's Top 10 organizational prospects), not to mention a decent hitter with 25 home run potential, for a shortstop who was rumored to be named in the Mitchell Report (and like clockwork, two days after the trade was named in the Mitchell Report) on the downswing of his career production wise? Oh, not to mention he plays a position where defensive production deteriorates at a rate much higher than other positions with age. Oh yeah, and it turns out he lied about his age, and he's actually 33, not 31. Most rational people would call that "retarded." Then again, you aren't most people and you aren't the most rational person in the world.

"Most rational people" probably don't have their thumbs up their asses reading BA all day. Patton is not even playing. Albers had been terrible in previous years. And obviously the owners knew more than we did about how serious the mitchell report shit would be.

Dunno how long Tejada's contract is, but short stops start being a defensive liability around age 35-36. So you got about two or three more seasons before he'd be better served as a DH. Oh, wait, Houston plays in the NL where there is no designated hitter. Guess he'll switch to the outfield, where regardless of his offensive production or how the players Baltimore got in return pan out, will devalue him to the point that this trade will look retarded in retrospect.

Uh... whatever you say. He's playing great defense right now at age 33. And his contract is one year, so you might as well wad up what you just said and throw it in the trash.

Why don't you shove your nose back in your stats, click "sort by winning %" and go to the store and grab that hat for the week, and leave us real baseball fans alone?

[cmac]

the st. louis series sure was fun.

[impala454]

yeah its good to have a little rowdiness every now and then. the rest of the cards vs stros games should be interesting this year

[impala454]

So Lance Berkman is frigging on fire. Went 5 for 5 tonight, his first 5 hit game ever. The offense is really starting to shape up nicely. Tejada-Berkman-Lee is proving to be a nasty 1-2-3 punch.

[impala454]

Poor Roy Oswalt... man I hope he finds whats wrong or his career could be over...