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post Apr 2 2008, 08:25 AM
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yes, it is important.

When claiming the argument of "well other countries are trying to support English-speaking visitors" as a reason to push justification for America to provide bilingual signage, intent matters to me.

From my understanding, accommodating tourists versus accommodating illegal visitors/residents is different.
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post Apr 2 2008, 08:30 AM
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impala, i dont know any real life mexican immigrants that "cry because everything isnt in spanish"

Sorry I should have been more clear. I didn't literally mean that mexican immigrants were in the streets with tears coming from their eyes. What I should have said was, I'm sick of seeing some jackass who doesn't know english taking up my time in line at various everyday errands like the post office, grocery store, fill out forms for anything, etc, and then actually get mad at the clerk because they don't know spanish.

QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 1 2008, 07:57 PM) *
i think you let the FEW highly bloated media stories get into your head.

I don't think I've ever seen any media story showing people upset over something not being in spanish, so no.
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 1 2008, 07:57 PM) *
impala, i dont know any real life mexican immigrants that "cry because everything isnt in spanish" i think you let the FEW highly bloated media stories get into your head.
are you kidding me???? I think this is because you are from a suburb in Houston. Go to a border city then get back to me
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:37 AM
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few examples:

like 7 years ago, huge outcry from the Hispanic population because they wanted court hearings held in Spanish

when I worked at the Lubbock Best Buy, a Hispanic couple came in to buy a camera. Supposedly they didn't speak English so I was sent to that dept (even though i was just a cashier) to help them. They refused to speak to me because I wasn't fluent. One of the camera sales girls came over to me and said "I speak Spanish. I just refuse to speak it to them. I was originally helping them in English, and they are fluent in English. We started chatting it up and when they found out I spoke Spanish, they refused to speak another word of English. I walked away." Fuck that. I walked away too. I even heard them speaking English later. FUCKING RETARDED

I have had that happen to me on several occasions.
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Apr 2 2008, 10:31 AM) *
are you kidding me???? I think this is because you are from a suburb in Houston. Go to a border city then get back to me

you are saying Houston doesnt have a lot of illegal immigrants? are you aware how big houston is in comparison to el paso? if illegals stayed in el paso for very long they'd just be stupid. hence why they come to larger cities that are more hospitable to immigrants

court cases in which a hispanic immigrant is involved with and doesnt speak english SHOULD be held in spanish. if the person cant understand whats going on then there is no fucking cases against them and its infringing on their rights. did that happen in el paso? i didnt think that place was THAT back asswards

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hence why I added the word SUBURB you stupid bitch

You dont know shit about immigration. This is very apparent.
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post Apr 2 2008, 10:14 AM
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what does this topic have to do with the suburbs? i have exited my parents house, even on numerous occasions!, and traveled around, stayed in, lived in various areas of houston

and wow take a chill pill


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post Apr 2 2008, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 2 2008, 10:48 AM) *
you are saying Houston doesnt have a lot of illegal immigrants? are you aware how big houston is in comparison to el paso? if illegals stayed in el paso for very long they'd just be stupid. hence why they come to larger cities that are more hospitable to immigrants

court cases in which a hispanic immigrant is involved with and doesnt speak english SHOULD be held in spanish. if the person cant understand whats going on then there is no fucking cases against them and its infringing on their rights. did that happen in el paso? i didnt think that place was THAT back asswards

AHHHHHH you people are insane

There is a difference between having a trial IN SPANISH and having a translator who explains what is going on. Translators are required, not a trial in spanish... thats just stupid because all hispanics would have thier own judge, which isn't fair to all english speakers who get randomly chosen judges for thier case. (effects trial preperations and how likely you are to win based on who is the judge)


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post Apr 2 2008, 10:26 AM
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my phrase "held in" is incorrect i guess but thats the point i was trying to make. the person has to understand whats going on


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post Apr 2 2008, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 2 2008, 11:26 AM) *
my phrase "held in" is incorrect i guess but thats the point i was trying to make. the person has to understand whats going on

Oh ok, yeah i think its already a requirement for trials thankfully.


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post Apr 2 2008, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 2 2008, 10:48 AM) *
court cases in which a hispanic immigrant is involved with and doesnt speak english SHOULD be held in spanish. if the person cant understand whats going on then there is no fucking cases against them and its infringing on their rights.

In a court case you have a right to legal representation. There is no law stating you must understand your court case. I could be wrong but do not believe there is a law saying the state must provide legal representation which speaks your language. So I don't exactly see what rights are being infringed on.

edit: nm, chicken said it
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post Apr 2 2008, 10:33 AM
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so a person not knowing whats being said about them, to them, or what papers they are signing in a trial or police interview is okay? is that what you are talking about? i dont see how an attorney could properly work with a client if they didnt speak each others language. if what you say is true id be very surprised

edit: seth said they have to have translators thus they have to be able to understand whats going on


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post Apr 2 2008, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 2 2008, 07:14 AM) *
is the reason why even important? i dont think so.


i think it makes a big difference. you're wanting us to learn new languages so it's easier on everyone else. the only reason everyone else learns english is to help their business practice's

since we don't require it and it's optional, it makes a hell of a difference to me.


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 2 2008, 10:48 AM) *
you are saying Houston doesnt have a lot of illegal immigrants? are you aware how big houston is in comparison to el paso? if illegals stayed in el paso for very long they'd just be stupid. hence why they come to larger cities that are more hospitable to immigrants

court cases in which a hispanic immigrant is involved with and doesnt speak english SHOULD be held in spanish. if the person cant understand whats going on then there is no fucking cases against them and its infringing on their rights. did that happen in el paso? i didnt think that place was THAT back asswards

AHHHHHH you people are insane




it's called a translator, dumbass. and they are required for anyone who can't speak english in court.


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post Apr 2 2008, 10:49 AM
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you're a little late, brandon


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