Topless protest (someone changed my title, link NSFW Options

[Hartmann]

Vietnam War.
The protests DID have an affect on this war, regardless of Dogmeat believes.
They helped bring to light growing public oppostion to the conflict, something politicians were unknowingly or knowingly blind to. (Same could be said for some of the Anti-Iraq protests)
To Dogmeat and Impala:
You both see protesting as ineffective.

What is the alternative method(s) of political action that you would both suggest?

I see most protesting as ineffective for most issues. The reason it worked during Vietnam is because you had an entire age group completely against the war because they didn't want to go.

I'm not sure the Civil Rights protesting had any positive effects besides MLK's speeches. Instead the rioting and protesting in Detroit and places of the like created more chaos and made the African American population look bad as a whole (IMO).

Personally, the silent protests and people who take action have more of an impact than those who loudly protest and proclaim something as wrong.

[Dogmeat]

I am going to ruffel many feathers here ..

Los Angeles, 1992.

Would you call that a protest, or an act of terrorism?

Whatever it was, it got the local judicial system to re-try two of the officers and convict them based on popular beleif ...

[Spectatrix]

I am going to ruffel many feathers here ..

I'll say. What atrocious spelling! I'm quite offended!

[Dogmeat]

I'll say. What atrocious spelling! I'm quite offended!

You should cuddle with me so that I may absorb some spelling skills ....

[Psykopath]

I see most protesting as ineffective for most issues. The reason it worked during Vietnam is because you had an entire age group completely against the war because they didn't want to go.

I'm not sure the Civil Rights protesting had any positive effects besides MLK's speeches. Instead the rioting and protesting in Detroit and places of the like created more chaos and made the African American population look bad as a whole (IMO).

Personally, the silent protests and people who take action have more of an impact than those who loudly protest and proclaim something as wrong.

exactly...it's still a form of protest, which is what I'm arguing for.

[Dogmeat]

exactly...it's still a form of protest, which is what I'm arguing for.

But what is a silent protest? Explain this to me.

[Psykopath]

But what is a silent protest? Explain this to me.

A gathering of people for a common cause that attempt to bring notice to their particular issue by numbers and non-violent civil disobedience.
See "sit-ins" as a similar example.

[Dogmeat]

A gathering of people for a common cause that attempt to bring notice to their particular issue by numbers and non-violent civil disobedience.
See "sit-ins" as a similar example.

Ok, so what has this form of protest accomplished?

[Hartmann]

A gathering of people for a common cause that attempt to bring notice to their particular issue by numbers and non-violent civil disobedience.
See "sit-ins" as a similar example.

But silent protests can be people taking action quietly, such as those who choose to not carry their groceries in plastic bags, instead bringing their own to the grocery store. They don't tell people they have to or yell at them or hold up signs, they lead by example. People take notice.

[impala454]

yeah silent protest != hippies sitting around refusing to leave, or some jackass camping out in front of some tree so it doesn't get bulldozed.

[FORSAKENR320]

Ok, so what has this form of protest accomplished?

this keeps the common goal of the protest insight, instead of everyone developing mob mentality and resorting to looting. the second someone starts looting or breaking down the basic laws of society (don't rape, kill, or steal) the protest has lost it's purpose, and will not sway anyone's opinion in the high powers.

silent protesting and passive aggressive actions such as sit ins are the basis of success during the civil rights movements

[Psykopath]

Ok, so what has this form of protest accomplished?

This is ridiculous...read a god damned history book covering the last 50 years in America.
Are you really this fucking dense or is it just the e-Dogmeat thing?

yeah silent protest != hippies sitting around refusing to leave

Yeah, damn those hippies, like those in the south.
They should have been happy in the back of the bus or eating at home instead of restaurants!

[Dogmeat]

This is ridiculous...read a god damned history book covering the last 50 years in America.
Are you really this fucking dense or is it just the e-Dogmeat thing?
Yeah, damn those hippies, like those in the south.
They should have been happy in the back of the bus or eating at home instead of restaurants!

If it's so obvious what silent protesting is and what it's accomplished you should be able to explain this to me off the top of your head quite easily. I'm not the one with the political science degree, you are. I'm assuming this shouldn't be a stretch for you by any means.

[Dogmeat]

But silent protests can be people taking action quietly, such as those who choose to not carry their groceries in plastic bags, instead bringing their own to the grocery store. They don't tell people they have to or yell at them or hold up signs, they lead by example. People take notice.

So is this silent action or protest ....?

[Psykopath]

If it's so obvious what silent protesting is and what it's accomplished you should be able to explain this to me off the top of your head quite easily. I'm not the one with the political science degree, you are. I'm assuming this shouldn't be a stretch for you by any means.

Silent protest:

Students in a classroom are opposed to an overly strict absentee policy. They all skip class by standing outside the classroom, with the obvious intent being that they won't return to the classroom unless the policy is changed.

Students are opposed to Bush speaking at their campus.
They go to the rally wearing, let's say...shirts with the Democratic donkey on them and are quiet as church mice, never once applauding or anything.

Little stuff, like that.