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> If the election was Feb 28, 2008...
Election
Who would you vote for?
Barack Obama [ 9 ] ** [52.94%]
John McCain [ 6 ] ** [35.29%]
Other (specify) [ 2 ] ** [11.76%]
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Hartmann
post Feb 28 2008, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 28 2008, 06:52 PM) *
i get an eerie feeling from obama. that hes just a talker and if hes president all his progressive plans are going to be watered down more and more. im still hoping for hillary!

hillary is different from obama in some areas though. shes way more supportive for social services and the environment


It's strange, I get the same feeling when I watch him speak. He has a lot of ideas that a good percentage of the country agree with but his words come across as empty. The feeling of disappointment is what I think a lot of Democrats are going to have if he gets elected.


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post Feb 28 2008, 11:10 PM
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yeah likewise. i didnt like how he was kind of unclear or not willing to really explain his platform for a long time. even now its hard to actually find what he plans to do in some areas. ive also read some things about him backing down to lobby groups in his career and letting some really important issues get polluted because of doing so. something that i think hillary clinton has a better track record on. shes more willing to actually "fight" for what she believes in imho


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post Feb 29 2008, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 28 2008, 11:10 PM) *
shes more willing to actually "fight" for what she believes in imho

I actually think that's a bad thing. We've got 7 years with an ultra-stubborn, unwilling-to-compromise president. I don't want another one (even for opposite ideas).


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post Feb 29 2008, 09:09 AM
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Haha... I just read the following in a myspace bulletin someone posted. Funny stuff.

Body: The Bible has warned us that 'A man will come from the East that will be charismatic in nature and have proposed solutions for all our problems and his rhetoric will attract many supporters!'

When will our pathetic Nation quit turning their back on God and understand that this man is 'A Muslim'....First, Last and always....and we are AT WAR with the Muslim Nation, whether our bleeding-heart, secular, Liberal friends believe it or not. This man fits every description from the Bible of the 'Anti-Christ'!

I'm just glad to know that there are others that are frightened by this man!


Who is Barack Obama?

Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice.

If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.

snopes.com ..' confirms this is factual. Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita , Kansas.

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's
education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Do you want someone like this as your PRESIDENT?

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!!!!!!
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post Feb 29 2008, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 29 2008, 08:23 AM) *
I actually think that's a bad thing. We've got 7 years with an ultra-stubborn, unwilling-to-compromise president. I don't want another one (even for opposite ideas).


Well see, this way it balances out. 8 years of extreme ideology in one direction and 8 years of extreme ideology in another direction equals 16 years of moderation.


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Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome!



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post Feb 29 2008, 09:15 AM
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I saw it as 8 years of one way, 8 years of another.... both extreme... and now we're back to the way we were before Bill. Crazy.
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Spectatrix
post Feb 29 2008, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Feb 29 2008, 09:09 AM) *
Haha... I just read the following in a myspace bulletin someone posted. Funny stuff.

Body: The Bible has warned us that 'A man will come from the East that will be charismatic in nature and have proposed solutions for all our problems and his rhetoric will attract many supporters!'

[...]

Since Snopes was mentioned...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

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Testm0nkey
post Feb 29 2008, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 29 2008, 08:23 AM) *
I actually think that's a bad thing. We've got 7 years with an ultra-stubborn, unwilling-to-compromise president. I don't want another one (even for opposite ideas).

well for me i dont think its a bad thing because i agree with her stances. im just talking about my opinion. i dont want some watered down yuppie i dont believe in just because hes watered down


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post Feb 29 2008, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 29 2008, 10:47 AM) *
yeah, i figured as much. I just thought it was funny
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post Feb 29 2008, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Feb 29 2008, 11:12 AM) *
well for me i dont think its a bad thing because i agree with her stances. im just talking about my opinion. i dont want some watered down yuppie i dont believe in just because hes watered down

That's cool, I understand. smile.gif I don't agree with either party (I'm a moderate libertarian), so I'd prefer to see them working together to accomplish things that the general populace can agree on rather than sticking stubbornly to partisan politics. I think Obama will accomplish that better, but it makes sense that you'd support Hillary with your views (not saying this is a bad thing! just different!)


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