Enslave the Poor Options

[Dogmeat]

It's really dawned on me that the poor, be they white, black, mexican, eskimo, french, who or whatever ..

Essentially contribute nothing to society.

They're lazy, they have bad attitudes, they aren't motivated, and generally speaking are just leeches on the rest of us who are actually attempting to be productive in life.

The problem with slavery in the past is that it targeted people by race, relegion or other politically incorrect classifications.

I propose that with the last century of what I'll call "Civil Rights Development" in mind, we re-instate slavery however we only enslave those who are jobless.

In essense, we can find everyone a job and then provide them with healthcare, etc, if they are enslaved.

It would be bad business for us to not take care of our slaves, however, the price for us taking care of them will be their slavery.

IE, they will work when, where, and how we tell them to work.

Eventually, once they've worked long and hard enough and are able to support themselves, they will be free of slavery, and than can own their own slaves.

I mean think about it ..

The poor in the ghettos, trailer parks, igloos, whatever... are poor, dejected, on drugs, etc ... they hate where they are, yet somehow, they refuse to leave.

I say we make em leave the shitholes they live in. If they won't get out on their own, we'll make them, enslave them, and force them to better themselves..

All the while contributing to the economy ... we'll have a society of productive people who aren't lazy anymore.

Sound good? I think so.

Dogmeat for President!

[FORSAKENR320]

has been done.

ever heard of indentured servitude?

[Dogmeat]

has been done.

ever heard of indentured servitude?

Yeah but that only targeted blacks didn't it? I wanna just enslave the poor as a whole...we'll have a melting pot of slaves

[FORSAKENR320]

Yeah but that only targeted blacks didn't it? I wanna just enslave the poor as a whole...we'll have a melting pot of slaves

Indentured Servitude in Colonial America
By Deanna Barker, Frontier Resources


One half to two thirds of all immigrants to Colonial America arrived as indentured servants. At times, as many as 75% of the population of some colonies were under terms of indenture. Even on the frontier, according to the 1790 U.S. Census, 6% of the Kentucky population was indentured.

Citizens of the colonies would deal with indenture on a daily basis. My intent is to give the reenactor or interpreter some of the background about working beside, owning or having been an indentured servant.

This was a labor system, not a system of apprenticeship. (Galenson, 6) The historic basis for indenture grew out of English agricultural servitude and began because of labor shortages in England and in the colonies. It developed at a time when England had a great number of people being displaced from farming. This led to an early growth of the indentured labor system.

The importation of white servants under contracts known as indentures proved more profitable as a short-term labor source than enslaving Indians or using free labor. Eventually, the final attempt to ease labor shortages was enslavement of Africans. Wherever you find slavery, you first find indentures.

A labor-intensive cash crop such as tobacco required a large work force. The earliest indentured servants were brought to Virginia as farm laborers. The importance of indenture can be seen in Virginia, where in 1618 the colony offered a headright, a grant of 50 acres per servant, as an incentive to planters to import more servants from England. The headright became the property of the owner, not the servant. (Galenson, 12) According to Galenson, "the basic elements of the system were in use by the Virginia Company by 1620, and may have been worked out earlier ..."(3)

In practice, the servant would sell himself to an agent or ship captain before leaving the British Isles. In turn, the contract would be sold to a buyer in the colonies to recover the cost of the passage. The crossing in steerage was grim. One indentured servant, Thomas Morally, was given three biscuits a day to eat and each mess of five men was given three pints of water per day.

Criminals convicted of a capital crime in England could be transported in lieu of a death sentance (for the theft of an item with a cost of as little as one shilling). Servitude also could result from indebtedness, where a person, their spouse or parents owed money, and the person was sold into servitude to recover the debt. In other cases, a parish indentured orphans in order to keep them off the poor roles. Plus, the poor sometimes sold themselves into indenture just to survive.

In most cases, the work of the indentured servant would be household or agricultural unskilled labor. There was also a great demand for skilled craftsmen. If an indentured servant had a skill that was in demand, like weaving, smithing or carpentry, the change of negotiating a shorter contract was quite good.

In theory, the person is only selling his or her labor. In practice, however, indentured servants were basically slaves and the courts enforced the laws that made it so. The treatment of the servant was harsh and often brutal. In fact, the Virginia Colony prescribed "bodily punishment for not heeding the commands of the master." (Ballagh, 45) Half the servants died in the first two years. As a result of this type of treatment, runaways were frequent. The courts realized this was a problem and started to demand that everyone have identification and travel papers. (A.E. Smith 264-270).

If a servant worked their full indenture, they received freedom dues, which were based on Hebrew law from the Old Testament. (Deut. 15:12-15) Many colonies also granted land to the newly freed servant.

As reenactors of the eighteenth century, every one of us would interact with indentured servants on a daily basis. A fairly large number of us would have been servants at one time. Yet, at most reenactments, this institution is noticeably lacking, along with travel papers and identification papers. As an early Virginian, John Pory, put it, "Our principal wealth ... consisteth in servants." (Galenson 3)

http://www.geocities.com/nai_cilh/servitude.html



also:: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant


is the main reason why i hate black people bitching about slavery. white people had the same shit happen to them they were "free" but without anyoptions to do anything else... so in my opinion, still slaves.

[impala454]

The reason black people bitching about slavery bugs me is that none of them were slaves. The whole "your great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa wronged my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa" crap gets old. So by their reasoning, if someone dies in jail before their sentence is up, should their kids be forced to take their place?

[Testm0nkey]

impala has a black person ever approached you and complained about slavery? sitting in school and learning about black history in february doesnt count...

[Dogmeat]

impala has a black person ever approached you and complained about slavery? sitting in school and learning about black history in february doesnt count...

I've actually had mexicans bitch to me about slavery before of all people that shit was so sad it was funny, they thought their grandfathers were slaves

I almost cried it was so funny

[James]

impala has a black person ever approached you and complained about slavery? sitting in school and learning about black history in february doesnt count...

I have had that happen before. It's kind of awkward.

On a side note, zero mention of Black History Month has been made at my school. Wonder if it's because we have maybe 5 black kids in the entire school.

[RitalinJunkie]

I had someone bitching to me about how their ancesters were all oppressed and made slaves by white people.....My family was 1) Irish (discriminated against) 2) anti slave) and 3) I showed them a text i had from US history comparing the conditions of African slaves to to Irish immigrants.....which in many cases were worse for the Irish (being tricked basically into the indentured servant system as soon as they were off the boat).



btw....Turns out her family is not even from Africa, but the carribean and didnt come over until after slavery had been abolished......stupid cunt

[Testm0nkey]

... there were black slaves in the carribean as well, smarty pants

were they adults? ive made my whole life without having that situation happen in real life. hm i wonder what the difference between us are about that

[FORSAKENR320]

... there were black slaves in the carribean as well, smarty pants

were they adults? ive made my whole life without having that situation happen in real life. hm i wonder what the difference between us are about that

I'VE ACTUALLY HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE... and yes, there was ALOT of slaves in the caribbean, forced to work the cane fields. cuba too. alot of those islands were just relay points for ships. drop some off, pick some up, inbetween destinations.

but i am confused by what glen said, did they come FROM the islands to america after slavery was abolished? or do you mean they went to the islands after slavery was abolished?

[Oasis]

Speaking of black people, I really want a pet monkey. Not one of those spider monkeys though, they jump around too much and I don't want my stuff fucked up at my house. Just one of those black cuddly looking monkeys that like jumping up and hugging people.

[FORSAKENR320]

Speaking of black people, I really want a pet monkey. Not one of those spider monkeys though, they jump around too much and I don't want my stuff fucked up at my house. Just one of those black cuddly looking monkeys that like jumping up and hugging people.

ALL MONKEYS/BLACK PEOPLE WILL FUCK YOUR STUFF UP

[pebkac]

I'VE ACTUALLY HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE...

You were enslaved in a Caribbean island nation?

Speaking of black people, I really want a pet monkey. Not one of those spider monkeys though, they jump around too much and I don't want my stuff fucked up at my house. Just one of those black cuddly looking monkeys that like jumping up and hugging people.

Screw that. I plan on getting a pet midget. If I train it right, it will pick shit up FOR ME and not fuck shit up.

[FORSAKENR320]

You were enslaved in a Caribbean island nation?

ya mon

id be crazy 'ard libbin' on dee i-land