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post Feb 19 2008, 08:27 PM
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I guess I don't understand this.

Ever since I was old enough to remember I've continually heard about the evil Fidel Castro.

Apparently we have a Naval Base in Cuba, etc, and all I've ever heard is about how oppressed Cuba is.

Why the hell didn't we over-throw this guy like 40 years ago? He's right in our back yard pretty much.


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post Feb 19 2008, 08:32 PM
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hah we "tried".

Chomsky gives good reasons on why it is good to have an "enemy" nearby (plays into fear tactics and a good versus bad mentality, conduit for military buildup (more so in the 60's/70's), etc...)

I think it's funny that people in Florida have been celebrating his stepping down like it's a big deal and it actually means something. I think the bigger deal is our embargo on Cuba which hurts the majority of the citizens anyways (especially the poor and middle class). When that ends, it will be a time to celebrate (which isn't anytime soon as the US has indicated).


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post Feb 19 2008, 08:38 PM
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Let me explain a little more of the Chomsky idea.

We (the US) has never been hesitant in replacing unfavorable military leaders around the globe (with greater emphasis on Central and South America). In that essence it seems kind of odd that we haven't done the same in Cuba (successfully might I add, we have indeed tried plenty of times whether directly by killing him or indirectly by causing social unrest which overturns him).

However, in some of the text that I read of Chomsky says that it makes sense to have some enemies nearby (especially during the time of the cold war) in order we could propagate fear and allow a more publicity acceptable amount of spending for the military. After the cold war and actually more appropriately recent times, Cuba has really been an inconsequential element that has been put on the backburner of political discussion (I mean Iraq/Iran dominates, Cuba is really only mentioned when candidates are debating in Florida) and so I think we have this sort of ennui associated with changing the country, so we are stuck upholding a policy of long ago that might not be applicable nowadays.


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post Feb 19 2008, 08:40 PM
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Ah. There's no oil in Cuba smile.gif

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post Feb 20 2008, 03:21 PM
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There's nothing in Cuba worth a shit, cept some cigars maybe. Or a good place for a military base.
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post Feb 20 2008, 04:06 PM
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my understanding is that would cause shit with Russia or China
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post Feb 20 2008, 04:31 PM
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There's nothing in Cuba worth a shit, cept some cigars maybe. Or a good place for a military base.


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post Feb 21 2008, 01:17 AM
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We should never trade with communist Cuba. They would become all powerful, invade the United States, and kill millions of Americans. I think that is pretty obvious.
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post Feb 21 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Slutter McGee @ Feb 21 2008, 02:17 AM) *
We should never trade with communist Cuba. They would become all powerful, invade the United States, and kill millions of Americans. I think that is pretty obvious.

Or hit on people's girlfriends.


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post Feb 23 2008, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 21 2008, 10:27 PM) *
Or hit on people's girlfriends.


Wouldn't matter to me.


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post Feb 23 2008, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 23 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Wouldn't matter to me.


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post Feb 24 2008, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (chook @ Feb 21 2008, 10:27 PM) *
Or hit on people's girlfriends.


Oh whatever. If I ever did hit on her, I was probably drunk and I sure as hell never tried to make a move on her.
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post Feb 24 2008, 04:07 PM
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ooo whats all this drama about?
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