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post Feb 8 2008, 11:11 AM
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Ok, I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm looking for a good Visual Studio alternative on the Mac, preferably one that can run my programs in Mono. I know there's a plugin for XCode, but it apparently hasn't been updated for XCode 3.0.

The reason why I'm looking for this is that I have VS on my MacBook running under VMWare Fusion, but it's a bit of a pain as VS eats up a lot of RAM and processor cycles. Especially when running OS X and Windows at the same time.

I like TextMate a lot, but I don't really want to pay $60 for it.

So, does this exist or am I asking the impossible?


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post Feb 8 2008, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 8 2008, 11:11 AM) *
Ok, I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm looking for a good Visual Studio alternative on the Mac, preferably one that can run my programs in Mono. I know there's a plugin for XCode, but it apparently hasn't been updated for XCode 3.0.

The reason why I'm looking for this is that I have VS on my MacBook running under VMWare Fusion, but it's a bit of a pain as VS eats up a lot of RAM and processor cycles. Especially when running OS X and Windows at the same time.

I like TextMate a lot, but I don't really want to pay $60 for it.

So, does this exist or am I asking the impossible?


What do you use VS for? Coding or compiling?


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post Feb 8 2008, 01:53 PM
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Just FYI, all attendees to the Heroes Happen Here Microsoft convention this spring/summer get a grab bag with Visual Studio 2008, Windows Server 2008 and SQL Server 2008.

If you want a free copy of each.

http://www.heroeshappenhere.com

I'm going to the Dallas one. I'm wondering what the afterparty will be like...


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post Feb 8 2008, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Feb 8 2008, 01:53 PM) *
Just FYI, all attendees to the Heroes Happen Here Microsoft convention this spring/summer get a grab bag with Visual Studio 2008, Windows Server 2008 and SQL Server 2008.

If you want a free copy of each.

http://www.heroeshappenhere.com

I'm going to the Dallas one. I'm wondering what the afterparty will be like...


It is a promotional version, just to be clear.


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post Feb 8 2008, 02:02 PM
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I have been to one of the MS conventions a few years ago and received a similiar grab bag with a full version of studio, windows xp, and office I believe. Was pretty neat.
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post Feb 8 2008, 02:13 PM
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when I saw the title I thought it was Good VERSUS Alternatives, and was intrigued...

...after reading the first two posts I am not anymore...


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post Feb 8 2008, 02:50 PM
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what "versus" were you referring to?
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post Feb 8 2008, 05:37 PM
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like good "against" alternatives...


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post Feb 9 2008, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 8 2008, 02:02 PM) *
It is a promotional version, just to be clear.

Nope, full liscensed copies. This isn't my first MS event.

They are technically called promotional events, but they are full licensed copies.

I got my copy of Vista Enterprise the same way.


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post Feb 9 2008, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 8 2008, 12:09 PM) *
What do you use VS for? Coding or compiling?


Both. What I would like is to be able to do the coding as well as making sure the code will compile before doing major testing in Windows.

One other question though: How reliable is Mono compared to Microsoft's .NET implementation?


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post Feb 10 2008, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Feb 9 2008, 03:01 AM) *
Nope, full liscensed copies. This isn't my first MS event.

They are technically called promotional events, but they are full licensed copies.

I got my copy of Vista Enterprise the same way.


Well, the website says promotional copies... And it wouldn't be my first Microsoft event either wink.gif

If the old boards were still around I think you'd find posts of me handing out XP and Visual Studio back in 2004.


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post Feb 10 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 9 2008, 11:06 PM) *
Both. What I would like is to be able to do the coding as well as making sure the code will compile before doing major testing in Windows.

One other question though: How reliable is Mono compared to Microsoft's .NET implementation?


hmmm.... I am not sure there is anything very reliable for Macs as far as compiling .NET code. There used to be a compiler that would compile the application code to the Intermediate Language, letting you know that it compiled correctly but I can't find it anywhere.

Mono seems to be behind the times as far as its implementation and though most functionality is there, I'm not sure you'll find it works for every instance.

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Mine's bigger.



Now, in all seriousness, I'm sure that zetec has been to plenty of MS events, I was just pointing out what was on the site.


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post Feb 10 2008, 03:46 PM
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yeah... i was just kidding. I just know you both know a lot about computers. Plus, I did know that you worked as a Microsoft rep or something back in the day
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post Feb 11 2008, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 10 2008, 03:27 PM) *
Well, the website says promotional copies... And it wouldn't be my first Microsoft event either wink.gif

If the old boards were still around I think you'd find posts of me handing out XP and Visual Studio back in 2004.

Doublecheck, sir, it says a promotional kit with copies of the three titles. Not promo copies.


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