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 Feb 3 2008, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE (dauss @ Feb 3 2008, 11:33 AM)  There's a good following for E-85 as race fuel because it's cheap, and the octane is very high. It also runs cooler than gasoline so you can run more aggressive timings and compression because it's nearly impossible to knock. I've seen many dyno charts of cars getting 13%+ more horsepower and 15%+ more torque with just a E-85 tune. Obviously you have to have the support mods like new fuel pump, injectors, exhaust, piggyback or standalone ECU and a protune. You're an idiot. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Feb 3 2008, 10:49 AM
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I never said that it was good for anything else, but a lot of people love it. Here's an 02 WRX with a 20G.
91 octane gasoline  retuned on E-85. 
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Feb 3 2008, 11:54 AM
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DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
If you have a high-tech engine control system ethanol works.
That's about all it does. It is ___NOT___ a superior fuel by any means. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Feb 4 2008, 12:31 AM
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It smells like shit too... literally
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Feb 4 2008, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 2 2008, 11:00 AM) If the next president supports the hydrogen or ethanol "economies", I'm gonna scream. They're both unfeasible. AND ETHANOL GETS CRAPPY MILEAGE. Tired of my fucking gas being diluted by that crap just so it's 20 cents per gallon cheaper. Need to get myself some damn acetone... What's wrong with hydrogen? It seems like a fairly clean source of energy. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Feb 4 2008, 10:33 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
It's clean, but ridiculously expensive to produce.
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Feb 4 2008, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Feb 3 2008, 11:54 AM) If you have a high-tech engine control system ethanol works. That's about all it does. It is ___NOT___ a superior fuel by any means. QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Feb 4 2008, 10:33 AM) It's clean, but ridiculously expensive to produce. I would argue that these are the problems that must be overcome to provide clean fuel. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Feb 4 2008, 10:46 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
After years of research, it's still prohibitively expensive. That might change, but I'm skeptical. I think we'll end up with electric vehicles and clean changes to the main power infrastructure (i.e. a move towards more solar, wind, and nuclear power).
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Feb 4 2008, 12:30 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I would be shocked if electric vehicles are the norm in my lifetime. Sure you can find a fully electric vehicle right now, but it's essentially no more than a suped up golf cart.
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Feb 4 2008, 12:56 PM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
I wouldn't imagine electric cars would do anything more than shift the production of CO2 over to electric plants instead of cars.
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Feb 4 2008, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Feb 4 2008, 12:56 PM) I wouldn't imagine electric cars would do anything more than shift the production of CO2 over to electric plants instead of cars. But you can control CO2 emissions more readily at the plant level (using CO2 capture and scrubbing) -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Feb 4 2008, 01:04 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
We just need the power of the sun, in the palms of our hands...
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Feb 4 2008, 01:05 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:30 PM) I would be shocked if electric vehicles are the norm in my lifetime. Sure you can find a fully electric vehicle right now, but it's essentially no more than a suped up golf cart. i watched a pretty amazing show about how they're developing the technology for electric cars... it could work -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Feb 4 2008, 01:14 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I think I saw the same show, yeah pretty neat stuff. But still eons from having electric cars be the norm.
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Feb 4 2008, 01:16 PM
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From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Feb 4 2008, 01:02 PM) But you can control CO2 emissions more readily at the plant level (using CO2 capture and scrubbing) This is true. In other news... -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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