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Hartmann
post Jan 11 2008, 09:04 AM
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I know they have energy problems but that's their fault, what they need is a giant sign on the California border saying "No more f'ers can live here".


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impala454
post Jan 11 2008, 03:12 PM
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This isn't about safety, it's about government control. Throw me into the foil hat group with Lance if you must, but they'll put this in under the guise of safety and then use it as some "wonderful" new California greenie bill and want everyone else to follow suit. If they really wanted to monitor this stuff and be able to shut off certain people for safety, they can already do it. If you don't pay your elec bill, you get shut off, it doesn't take that much more for someone to look at how much electricity you use. Your HVAC determines 80% of your electric bill anyways.
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post Jan 11 2008, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jan 11 2008, 03:12 PM) *
This isn't about safety, it's about government control. Throw me into the foil hat group with Lance if you must, but they'll put this in under the guise of safety and then use it as some "wonderful" new California greenie bill and want everyone else to follow suit. If they really wanted to monitor this stuff and be able to shut off certain people for safety, they can already do it. If you don't pay your elec bill, you get shut off, it doesn't take that much more for someone to look at how much electricity you use. Your HVAC determines 80% of your electric bill anyways.



thats a good point that everyone is forgetting... those people that run thier AC on 50 usually are paying to be able to do so.


unless california is loaded with apartments like mine.... which do not have to pay for any of their bills, including air conditioner...


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post Jan 11 2008, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jan 11 2008, 03:15 PM) *
thats a good point that everyone is forgetting... those people that run thier AC on 50 usually are paying to be able to do so.
unless california is loaded with apartments like mine.... which do not have to pay for any of their bills, including air conditioner...

But you're still wasting energy, is also the point.

There is no need to run an AC at 50 in the winter. Nor is their any reason to nail shut a 2nd floor window.


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- Hartmann   California seeks thermostat monitoring and control   Jan 11 2008, 09:04 AM
- - impala454   Wow. They can pry my thermostat out of my cold, d...   Jan 11 2008, 10:00 AM
- - Watchman   haha, why is the solution to everything more contr...   Jan 11 2008, 10:09 AM
- - Testm0nkey   do dumb people really need to live indoors at a 50...   Jan 11 2008, 11:26 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jan 11 2008, 11:26 AM...   Jan 11 2008, 11:39 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 11 2008, 12:39 PM) ...   Jan 11 2008, 11:47 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Inferia @ Jan 11 2008, 11:47 AM) I...   Jan 11 2008, 11:52 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jan 11 2008, 12:52 PM) ...   Jan 11 2008, 12:07 PM
- - Testm0nkey   the inherent problem is people living in excess. ...   Jan 11 2008, 11:44 AM
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- - 2wolUTT   lolz she wants that bitch dry   Jan 11 2008, 12:51 PM
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- - Testm0nkey   the green houses i was referring to are homes that...   Jan 11 2008, 03:17 PM
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