Jan 11 2008, 09:04 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/11con...0mR6wWDVHznsAQA
W...T...F... I know they have energy problems but that's their fault, what they need is a giant sign on the California border saying "No more f'ers can live here". -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:12 PM
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This isn't about safety, it's about government control. Throw me into the foil hat group with Lance if you must, but they'll put this in under the guise of safety and then use it as some "wonderful" new California greenie bill and want everyone else to follow suit. If they really wanted to monitor this stuff and be able to shut off certain people for safety, they can already do it. If you don't pay your elec bill, you get shut off, it doesn't take that much more for someone to look at how much electricity you use. Your HVAC determines 80% of your electric bill anyways.
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Hartmann California seeks thermostat monitoring and control Jan 11 2008, 09:04 AM
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Testm0nkey the inherent problem is people living in excess. ... Jan 11 2008, 11:44 AM
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