Dec 13 2007, 09:40 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/eng...bill/index.html
QUOTE WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican leaders in the House are supporting a bill that would let employers set an English only policy on the job. art.sa.gi.jpg The EEOC has sued the Salvation Army after organization required that their workers learn English. Rep. Tom Price, R-Georgia, is the lead sponsor of the Common Sense English Act. The bill, introduced in the House on Wednesday, would allow offices and workplaces around the country to require English under any circumstance they prefer. The measure comes after the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission sued the Salvation Army over the issue. The charity organization required that their workers learn English within a year and speak English only after that point. The EEOC sued for discrimination. "What kind of nonsense is that?" said Rep. Price. "I believe strongly that employers ought to be able to require employees to speak English while engaged in work activities," he said. "And that's all it does. It's very simple." Price's bill pulled in 31 co-sponsors within hours of being drafted. Among those co-sponsors are other top Republicans in the House, including House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. The Senate has already passed a similar bill, but it has stalled in the Democratic-run House where it was frozen before making it to the floor. The EEOC insists it is enforcing the current law as written and that regulations are specific. Employers can require English only, but such a policy cannot be in response to any one group, such as Spanish speakers, and it must be for a specific, business-related reason. "An English only rule must be justified by business necessity," said EEOC regional attorney Elizabeth Grossman. "Safety would be an example." Price and Republicans behind the bill see more at stake. "Americans believe that we are a nation united by one language and that our central language protects both our safety and our culture," Price said. I'm not entirely sure what I think about this... depends on how it's worded. I have no problem with workers speaking Spanish, Chinese, etc. when speaking with each other, but employers should certainly be permitted to require their employees learn English so that they can interact with customers properly. -------------------- |
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Dec 13 2007, 01:37 PM
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Do we really need a bill for this? If the person doesn't speak English, and you think this will be a problem in the future, then don't hire the person. If speaking English is a non-issue, then what does it matter anyway.
If somehow the job comes with the requirement that one must learn English after a year of obtaining the job, then it should be specified. I don't really see that much of a problem with the employer requiring the person to learn English (perhaps a little weird that you learn it after you get the job), and if the person doesn't, I don't see a person being fired for it. -------------------- I go to the maize and blue
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Dec 13 2007, 01:43 PM
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Do we really need a bill for this? If the person doesn't speak English, and you think this will be a problem in the future, then don't hire the person. If speaking English is a non-issue, then what does it matter anyway. Uhh, probably because an employer would get hauled off to court and sued for discrimination by those cunts MALDEF -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 01:46 PM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
Uhh, probably because an employer would get hauled off to court and sued for discrimination by those cunts MALDEF If that is discrimination, than so is not hiring someone because they did not perform well at their last job. It is an indication that they may have problems with certain situations (IMO this falls under "unable to perform the required tasks"). EDIT: Actually....that sort of "discrimination" is necessary in order for businesses to function. -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Dec 13 2007, 01:55 PM
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If that is discrimination, than so is not hiring someone because they did not perform well at their last job. It is an indication that they may have problems with certain situations (IMO this falls under "unable to perform the required tasks"). EDIT: Actually....that sort of "discrimination" is necessary in order for businesses to function. It isn't discrimination at all. But it wasn't discrimination when the Round Rock Independent School District wrote 90 something truancy tickets when a bunch of spics walked out in the middle of class a year or two ago in protest of tougher border laws. They were given tickets because they skipped school. But of course, fucking MALDEF decided to fight the tickets in court. Not all of them at once, mind you. They were trying to take every single defendant to trial separately. The tickets were finally dismissed and "justice" declared because fucking MALDEF already wasted $90k+ of our tax dollars because of their non profit exemption and it would have endlessly tied up the courts and jurors for months on end. Trust me, those dickweeds will file a lawsuit for anything they see as unfair in their pea brained minds. I'm sure the NAACP would do the same thing if some black guy could only talk in Ebonics -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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Dec 13 2007, 02:00 PM
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It isn't discrimination at all. Frankly, Im sick of hearig about that... THOUSANDS walked out that day in El Paso. I'm sure other border cities had the same problem. Every single school, elementery through high school was on lockdown that day in El Paso. You couldn't even go to the bathroom without an adult escort. Of course, upper class Austin and surrounding area has to blow things way out of proportion. Learn to deal. Mexicans have taken over Texas.
But it wasn't discrimination when the Round Rock Independent School District wrote 90 something truancy tickets when a bunch of spics walked out in the middle of class a year or two ago in protest of tougher border laws. They were given tickets because they skipped school. But of course, fucking MALDEF decided to fight the tickets in court. Not all of them at once, mind you. They were trying to take every single defendant to trial separately. The tickets were finally dismissed and "justice" declared because fucking MALDEF already wasted $90k+ of our tax dollars because of their non profit exemption and it would have endlessly tied up the courts and jurors for months on end. Trust me, those dickweeds will file a lawsuit for anything they see as unfair in their pea brained minds. I'm sure the NAACP would do the same thing if some black guy could only talk in Ebonics |
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Spectatrix Employer English-only bill Dec 13 2007, 09:40 AM
impala454 QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Dec 13 2007, 09:40 AM... Dec 13 2007, 09:54 AM
pysex fine with me Dec 13 2007, 11:20 AM
TTUAthleticTrainer Where I work there are SEVERAL employees who don... Dec 13 2007, 11:53 AM
Jim Hear hear. English should be required by all empl... Dec 13 2007, 12:08 PM
jonathan83 it's definitely not professional, so i agree w... Dec 13 2007, 12:09 PM
Spectatrix Yeah, I'm pretty sure I agree with the bill. ... Dec 13 2007, 12:11 PM
RitalinJunkie Well...I think that languages you speak should be ... Dec 13 2007, 12:39 PM
Jim QUOTE (RitalinJunkie @ Dec 13 2007, 12:39... Dec 13 2007, 01:48 PM
Jessica its pretty sad that there is a lawsuit pending aga... Dec 13 2007, 01:29 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 13 2007, 01:29 PM) i... Dec 13 2007, 02:17 PM
Jessica QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Dec 13 2007, 02:17 ... Dec 13 2007, 02:22 PM
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Testm0nkey yeah why sue the salvation army? jesus christ
peo... Dec 13 2007, 01:32 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 01:32 PM... Dec 13 2007, 01:35 PM
Jessica QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 01:32 PM... Dec 13 2007, 01:38 PM
RitalinJunkie QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 02:32 PM... Dec 13 2007, 01:42 PM
jonathan83 then you better get studying! Dec 13 2007, 01:36 PM

Jim QUOTE (Oasis @ Dec 13 2007, 01:55 PM) It ... Dec 13 2007, 02:40 PM
johnthedrunk QUOTE (Inferia @ Dec 13 2007, 01:37 PM) D... Dec 13 2007, 01:45 PM
Testm0nkey SI
im not fluent yet but i can converse easily an... Dec 13 2007, 01:41 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 01:41 PM... Dec 13 2007, 01:44 PM
jonathan83 it's funny how america has all these laws that... Dec 13 2007, 01:47 PM
Testm0nkey lots of businesses have a portion of the business ... Dec 13 2007, 01:56 PM
Testm0nkey black dialect - ebonics is already an official lan... Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM
Oasis QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM... Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 02:02 PM... Dec 13 2007, 02:07 PM
Inferia QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Dec 13 2007, 03:07 PM... Dec 13 2007, 02:10 PM
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Testm0nkey i was just saying thats funny. "jive" Dec 13 2007, 02:04 PM
Oasis Shut up, jive turkey Dec 13 2007, 02:06 PM
Oasis Other countries who have two official languages (s... Dec 13 2007, 03:15 PM
Jim QUOTE (Oasis @ Dec 13 2007, 03:15 PM) Oth... Dec 13 2007, 03:22 PM
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Spectatrix QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 03:24 PM... Dec 13 2007, 03:33 PM
Jessica I think a lot of us need to realize that there is ... Dec 13 2007, 03:30 PM
Jessica Yeah, I would have to say your post was pretty rac... Dec 13 2007, 03:33 PM
Oasis QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 13 2007, 03:33 PM) Y... Dec 13 2007, 03:39 PM
Jessica Im moving to England if we declare two official la... Dec 13 2007, 03:35 PM
Oasis Oh, and to answer the racist claim. Absolutely not... Dec 13 2007, 03:49 PM
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Jessica QUOTE (Oasis @ Dec 13 2007, 04:11 PM) I a... Dec 13 2007, 06:21 PM
FORSAKENR320 i see it as less of a problem with spanish... and... Dec 13 2007, 04:28 PM
Oasis QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Dec 13 2007, 04:28 ... Dec 13 2007, 04:31 PM
jonathan83 QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Dec 13 2007, 04:28 ... Dec 13 2007, 04:42 PM
Inferia QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Dec 13 2007, 05:28 ... Dec 13 2007, 05:13 PM
Testm0nkey like you lost him or has just anyone seen him befo... Dec 13 2007, 04:32 PM
Oasis QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Dec 13 2007, 04:32 PM... Dec 13 2007, 04:54 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Dec 13 2007, 04:28 ... Dec 13 2007, 05:23 PM
jonathan83 awww.
actually in general i think eastern asians... Dec 13 2007, 05:23 PM
Jessica Asians usually speak English at stores and stuff. ... Dec 13 2007, 06:23 PM
GOB fuck 'em Dec 13 2007, 06:54 PM
Jim A few really good friends of mine are fluent in Ch... Dec 13 2007, 09:50 PM
Divergent Reality it probably has something to do with the relative ... Dec 13 2007, 10:14 PM
kcroxyoursox I have no problems requiring English, so long as i... Dec 13 2007, 10:39 PM
Jim QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ Dec 13 2007, 10:39 ... Dec 13 2007, 10:49 PM
pebkac Just an FYI, employers CAN make an english-only po... Dec 14 2007, 12:40 PM
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Testm0nkey i cant get over that spanish people, or maybe its ... Dec 14 2007, 03:43 PM
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GOB hope this picks up and continues for many years to... Dec 23 2007, 09:54 PM
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