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Hartmann
post Nov 30 2007, 09:03 AM
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What do you think?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7121025.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7115821.stm

Yep. Islam is a religion of peace. "CHOP HER HEAD OFF!"

I think it's hilarious that the kid who named the bear is actually named Muhammad.

There was a woman on the radio this morning that called in and told the host he was out of his mind of insulting Islam and then she immediately went on a rant about how George Bush hates African Americans. This is what my home country is coming to. rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 30 2007, 09:36 AM
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ok she taught in the middle east? then she should have known better. dont run into a different culture and not take the time to learn its customs otherwise you get in trouble. the teacher was just dumb

for example, in Singapore a person could be put to death for minor drug charges. we dont do that in America and we dont "understand" that. but when you are there you have to respect their authority. to them that is an acceptable response

i also know when flying to singapore, while you are still on the plane, you have to sign a waiver stating you understand their rules and customs and they give you a Do not do list. id be curious if flying into the middle east if they do something similar. i think that they would/should


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post Nov 30 2007, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 30 2007, 09:36 AM) *
ok she taught in the middle east? then she should have known better. dont run into a different culture and not take the time to learn its customs otherwise you get in trouble. the teacher was just dumb

for example, in Singapore a person could be put to death/lifetime in prison for minor drug charges. we dont do that in America and we dont "understand" that. but when you are there you have to respect their authority. to them that is an acceptable response


I think those are two completely different ideas.

In Singapore it has nothing to do with religion, instead it has to do with keeping the country safe and clean. I have no problem with Singapore caning someone for smoking some dope because it's their law.

Flying pretty much anywhere you have to sign some sort of waiver. In Singapore though, they are adamant that you understand their drug laws. I'm not sure if when you fly into Khartoum in the little prop plane if you get a form that tells you 'By signing this you agree to not allow your students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad"'.

In Sudan, it isn't civil law that is being enforced, it's religious law and this is being done other places as well. Granted, she should have known what she was getting herself into when she went there, however, she didn't name the bear, she just allowed the students to. Why don't they cut the head off the little boy who named it?


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post Nov 30 2007, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 30 2007, 09:44 AM) *
I think those are two completely different ideas.

In Singapore it has nothing to do with religion, instead it has to do with keeping the country safe and clean. I have no problem with Singapore caning someone for smoking some dope because it's their law.

Flying pretty much anywhere you have to sign some sort of waiver. In Singapore though, they are adamant that you understand their drug laws. I'm not sure if when you fly into Khartoum in the little prop plane if you get a form that tells you 'By signing this you agree to not allow your students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad"'.

In Sudan, it isn't civil law that is being enforced, it's religious law and this is being done other places as well. Granted, she should have known what she was getting herself into when she went there, however, she didn't name the bear, she just allowed the students to. Why don't they cut the head off the little boy who named it?


So extremism is ok just as long as it isn't religious extremism?

This is a pretty fucked up situation, but there are plenty of other situations around the world that are equally fucked up. Whether its religion, politics, or tradition, ideology is still ideology.


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- Hartmann   This thing with the kid naming the teddy bear Muhammad?   Nov 30 2007, 09:03 AM
- - Testm0nkey   the real problem is that a teacher was sent to JAI...   Nov 30 2007, 09:18 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 30 2007, 09:18 AM...   Nov 30 2007, 09:22 AM
- - Testm0nkey   england doesnt have capital punishment americans...   Nov 30 2007, 09:24 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 30 2007, 09:24 AM...   Nov 30 2007, 09:27 AM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 30 2007, 09:24 AM...   Dec 1 2007, 02:11 AM
- - Testm0nkey   ok she taught in the middle east? then she should...   Nov 30 2007, 09:36 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 30 2007, 09:36 AM...   Nov 30 2007, 09:44 AM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 30 2007, 09:44 AM) ...   Nov 30 2007, 12:26 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 30 2007, 12:26 PM) So...   Nov 30 2007, 12:43 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 30 2007, 12:43 PM) ...   Dec 1 2007, 12:45 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (pebkac @ Dec 1 2007, 12:45 AM) Pro...   Dec 1 2007, 12:36 PM
- - Testm0nkey   religion is a strong part of their culture. religi...   Nov 30 2007, 09:56 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 30 2007, 09:56 AM...   Nov 30 2007, 10:38 AM
- - pysex   this is fucking retarded so now muslims are riot...   Nov 30 2007, 11:51 AM
|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (pysex @ Nov 30 2007, 11:51 AM) so ...   Nov 30 2007, 03:51 PM
- - Watchman   muslims are retarded, that's all you need to k...   Nov 30 2007, 11:52 AM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (Watchman @ Nov 30 2007, 11:52 AM) ...   Nov 30 2007, 12:01 PM
- - Spectatrix   The truly asinine thing about this is that it...   Nov 30 2007, 12:01 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 30 2007, 12:01 PM...   Nov 30 2007, 12:13 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 30 2007, 12:01 PM...   Dec 1 2007, 01:41 AM
- - Inferia   There are lots of rules in different countries tha...   Nov 30 2007, 12:35 PM
|- - Testm0nkey   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 30 2007, 12:35 PM) W...   Nov 30 2007, 06:11 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (Inferia @ Nov 30 2007, 12:35 PM) W...   Dec 1 2007, 12:43 PM
- - Dogmeat   White people have failed miserably this century.   Nov 30 2007, 12:55 PM
- - TetraGrammaton Cleric   unfortunately, the law rarely accounts for intent ...   Nov 30 2007, 04:00 PM
- - Forum Warrior   I am aghast that anyone would defend the reaction ...   Nov 30 2007, 05:17 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Forum Warrior @ Nov 30 2007, 05:17...   Nov 30 2007, 05:58 PM
- - Testm0nkey   my opinion that it was stupid of her is wrong? it...   Nov 30 2007, 06:10 PM
- - blaarg   you know if the Sudanese people were atheists this...   Dec 1 2007, 01:32 PM
- - Spectatrix   Apparently the whole complaint was a setup by a di...   Dec 3 2007, 11:12 AM
- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Dec 3 2007, 11:12 AM)...   Dec 3 2007, 11:13 AM


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