Nov 21 2007, 12:34 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071121/ap_on_.../guns_on_campus
I dont want a bunch of moronic college students carrying weapons on campus. |
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Nov 21 2007, 01:29 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 26-June 06 From: San Marcos and San Antonio Member No.: 221 |
I guess I should reply to this since I'm in Student Government at Texas State University. I was one of 15 Senators that voted no on this piece of legislation. I did bring in some of my personal feelings to this vote, but I also voiced the opinion of parents, alumni, faculty, staff, and most importantly, Students. While I am aware of CHL laws in Texas, but we're at a state funded institution and we're there for one purpose and I have never felt the need for a gun on campus. Texas State has one of the safest campuses in the nation and we have some of the best Police officers on campus. In my year and a half here, never have I felt the need for a gun while sitting in class. College Republicans (who were the big pushers for this legislation... the CR Chair authored it... yeah) utilized many 'what-ifs' and other hypotheticals. But that's the thing, they're what ifs...
It's intersting to see others inputs at other Universities. I will take this into consideration. What Yahoo and others haven't pointed out is that ASG DID NOT ENDORSE THIS! We pushed it to Student Referendum for them to vote in the Spring |
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Nov 21 2007, 01:46 PM
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College Republicans (who were the big pushers for this legislation... the CR Chair authored it... yeah) utilized many 'what-ifs' and other hypotheticals. But that's the thing, they're what ifs... I don't quite understand this as a valid reasoning. So you are saying you shouldn't prepare for situations that haven't happened but could potentially happen (regardless of how remote the possibility). -------------------- ![]() |
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Nov 21 2007, 02:05 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 26-June 06 From: San Marcos and San Antonio Member No.: 221 |
I don't quite understand this as a valid reasoning. So you are saying you shouldn't prepare for situations that haven't happened but could potentially happen (regardless of how remote the possibility). We have campus police. That's what they're there for. We don't have militia on campus for a reason. Why not give more money to UPD for more officers and training? We don't pay Student Service Fees with UPD Fees included for nothing. |
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Nov 21 2007, 02:12 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
We have campus police. That's what they're there for. We don't have militia on campus for a reason. Why not give more money to UPD for more officers and training? The city has police too, but people can legally carry their guns there. Virginia Tech had campus police, but Seung-Hui Cho still managed to kill 32 people before committing suicide -- note that the police weren't even able to get to him before he killed himself. Please note that I say this never having owned a gun, much less having a concealed carry license. I probably never will own a gun either, but that's my personal choice and I don't want the government infringing upon it one way or another. This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Nov 21 2007, 02:14 PM -------------------- |
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Nov 21 2007, 02:14 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 26-June 06 From: San Marcos and San Antonio Member No.: 221 |
The city has police too, but people can legally carry their guns there. Virginia Tech had campus police, but Seung-Hui Cho still managed to kill 32 people before committing suicide -- note that the police weren't even able to get to him before he killed himself. There was a 2 hour lapse between the first murders and the rampage that he went on. Had the UPD been properly trained, things would have been different. We're at school for that... school, learning environment. It's a stressful situation. We don't need CHLs on campus. I stand by my no vote. |
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Jessica Texas State makes the yahoo.com homepage Nov 21 2007, 12:34 PM
schwab i dont either but welcome to texas Nov 21 2007, 12:36 PM
THECHICKEN 21 yrs old is a junior in college? I think if you ... Nov 21 2007, 12:49 PM
Spectatrix Even in Texas, the number of people with concealed... Nov 21 2007, 12:52 PM
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Melanie what the hell, you people?
Again, I stand by my v... Nov 21 2007, 03:27 PM
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Oasis Why the hell would students need firearms in schoo... Nov 22 2007, 11:21 PM
Spectatrix Looking at this purely from a legal standpoint, I ... Nov 23 2007, 11:42 AM
Melanie Would y'all be willing to lose federal aide? ... Nov 23 2007, 11:50 AM
Jim QUOTE (Melanie @ Nov 23 2007, 11:50 AM) W... Nov 23 2007, 04:34 PM
Jessica It is completely unnecessary to carry a gun on a c... Nov 23 2007, 01:17 PM
Melanie Yeah, I think it was according to US News, but Tex... Nov 23 2007, 04:26 PM
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Melanie Thanks and I am in politics dickweed. But I meant... Nov 23 2007, 06:11 PM
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Jessica lolercopter Nov 23 2007, 09:19 PM
Epic i thought you were working for obama? Nov 23 2007, 09:35 PM
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FORSAKENR320 QUOTE and forsaknr, i wrote the legislation, ciro ... Nov 23 2007, 10:08 PM

Melanie QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 23 2007, 10:08 ... Nov 23 2007, 10:14 PM

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FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Melanie @ Nov 23 2007, 09:41 PM) i... Nov 23 2007, 10:04 PM
Melanie QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Nov 23 2007, 10:04 ... Nov 23 2007, 10:12 PM
FORSAKENR320 QUOTE (Melanie @ Nov 23 2007, 10:12 PM) i... Nov 23 2007, 10:20 PM
THECHICKEN Well this was going towards a semi-intelligent con... Nov 23 2007, 10:27 PM
Melanie QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 23 2007, 10:27 PM... Nov 24 2007, 04:14 AM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Melanie @ Nov 24 2007, 04:14 AM) i... Nov 24 2007, 10:55 AM
Melanie QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 24 2007, 10:55 AM... Nov 24 2007, 12:09 PM
Jim QUOTE (Melanie @ Nov 24 2007, 12:09 PM) O... Nov 24 2007, 10:14 PM
Melanie I said state leg and the aides, I don't know h... Nov 24 2007, 10:19 PM
Spectatrix QUOTE (Melanie @ Nov 24 2007, 10:19 PM) I... Nov 25 2007, 11:12 AM
Jim I'm implying that Melanie doesn't know wha... Nov 25 2007, 11:54 AM
Melanie After talking to a few people because a few months... Nov 25 2007, 11:56 AM
RitalinJunkie QUOTE (Melanie @ Nov 25 2007, 12:56 PM) t... Nov 25 2007, 03:27 PM
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Melanie newsflash, I don't go to Tech.
And my propose... Nov 25 2007, 08:39 PM
Jessica BANG! Nov 26 2007, 01:45 PM
Spectatrix Big Bang? Nov 26 2007, 02:21 PM
Psykopath QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 26 2007, 02:21 PM... Nov 26 2007, 02:23 PM
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He shot me ... Nov 26 2007, 02:51 PM
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