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blaarg
post Nov 13 2007, 06:37 PM
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This guy is polling in the 20% range in Iowa. Are you FUCKING kidding me!??!

Mike Huckabee:
Doesn't believe in evolution.
Is an ordained minister who thinks that faith "makes us less judgmental, as we see others with the same frailties we have," yet would champion an effort to amend the constitution for a gay marriage ban.
Against stem cell research.
Support the war in Iraq.
"My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them."

Hey but at least he believes in being environmentally responsible!

(all quotes/opinions taken from his website)

This is fucking ridiculous, and I love how he gets all upset when he gets asked the evolution question. "It's interesting that that question would even be asked for somebody running for President. I'm not planning on writing the curriculum in an 8th grade science book, I'm asking to have the opportunity to become the President of the United States." I think it is an extremely VALID question, it shows how he is 1) a religious zealot 2) is crazy thinking that there is a possibility that God created everything in 6 days.

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post Nov 16 2007, 10:00 PM
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OK< this hopefully ties in more with the original thought of this thread, being crazy religious zealots. I work with a woman who claims to be a Christian......yet she seems to exhibit some highly UNChristian values. For one, she is GREEDY. All she ever talks about is getting stuff for free. Example: the other day I was talking to a co-worker about getting gift cards from my Best Buy Reward Zone account, and she butts in saying, "Oh, is that my Christmas present?" This lady does this shit all the time. Just yesterday, in fact, a vendor came and offered to take ONE of us to lunch....Christian lady butted in and invited herself along (knowing the vendor would pay). She bought the highest priced thing on the menu. She talks about having god-parents for her children for the sole purpose of that person providing her children with material possessions. My point is that some of the most hard-core Bible-thumping people can be the most hypocritical. Right-wing Republicans are also a good example.
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post Nov 16 2007, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Nov 16 2007, 10:00 PM) *
OK< this hopefully ties in more with the original thought of this thread, being crazy religious zealots. I work with a woman who claims to be a Christian......yet she seems to exhibit some highly UNChristian values. For one, she is GREEDY. All she ever talks about is getting stuff for free. Example: the other day I was talking to a co-worker about getting gift cards from my Best Buy Reward Zone account, and she butts in saying, "Oh, is that my Christmas present?" This lady does this shit all the time. Just yesterday, in fact, a vendor came and offered to take ONE of us to lunch....Christian lady butted in and invited herself along (knowing the vendor would pay). She bought the highest priced thing on the menu. She talks about having god-parents for her children for the sole purpose of that person providing her children with material possessions. My point is that some of the most hard-core Bible-thumping people can be the most hypocritical. Right-wing Republicans are also a good example.

yeah that's a shame, but christians believe that you can still be a bad person (since all humans are "bad") and still go to heaven. just as long as you believe jesus was the son of god and died for your sins. of course people take advantage of this and just sin and repent later that day..but then one has to wonder if that person is truly a christian. christians are bad at being hypocritical, but i think every religion has this problem.


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post Nov 16 2007, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 16 2007, 11:11 PM) *
yeah that's a shame, but christians believe that you can still be a bad person (since all humans are "bad") and still go to heaven. just as long as you believe jesus was the son of god and died for your sins. of course people take advantage of this and just sin and repent later that day..but then one has to wonder if that person is truly a christian. christians are bad at being hypocritical, but i think every religion has this problem.


One of the most hypocritical aspects of any religion...period.

I'm sure Jesus Christ himself would disagree with such BS.
Living a "good" life (varying shades of good, depending on so many variables...but that discussion shall be saved for another thread) requires more than just accepting one statement as personal fact.


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- blaarg   Mike Huckabee   Nov 13 2007, 06:37 PM
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