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blaarg
post Nov 13 2007, 06:37 PM
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This guy is polling in the 20% range in Iowa. Are you FUCKING kidding me!??!

Mike Huckabee:
Doesn't believe in evolution.
Is an ordained minister who thinks that faith "makes us less judgmental, as we see others with the same frailties we have," yet would champion an effort to amend the constitution for a gay marriage ban.
Against stem cell research.
Support the war in Iraq.
"My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them."

Hey but at least he believes in being environmentally responsible!

(all quotes/opinions taken from his website)

This is fucking ridiculous, and I love how he gets all upset when he gets asked the evolution question. "It's interesting that that question would even be asked for somebody running for President. I'm not planning on writing the curriculum in an 8th grade science book, I'm asking to have the opportunity to become the President of the United States." I think it is an extremely VALID question, it shows how he is 1) a religious zealot 2) is crazy thinking that there is a possibility that God created everything in 6 days.

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I dont believe in evolution... would any of you say that Im a religious zealot...because I most certainly am not. I never go to church, I dont pray or read the Bible, never preach to others, etc.
I agree with Jonathan... evolution is still a theory and anyone who says that scientific FACT backs it up is sorely misinformed. I dont argue for creation or against evolution, but something inside of me feels that there is more to life than a random formation of quarks into atoms, atoms into molecules, molecules into compounds...etc. I dont care enough to argue.
Im immensely SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of atheistic assholes talking down to Christians for believing differently than them. Insecure maybe? Who knows.
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post Nov 16 2007, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 15 2007, 02:15 PM) *
Im immensely SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of atheistic assholes talking down to Christians for believing differently than them. Insecure maybe? Who knows.


I am going to say that this was directed at me....

I am not talking down to them for believing something differently than me. Notice I never become hostile to anybody who says that god was the "initial mover" and he is the creator behind evolution, yada yada yada, because I believe that if you are religious, that is the most "valid" stance.

I become hostile towards people (who are most likely Christians) who say absurd things like the Earth is 6000 years old, something that has been proven/shown EXTENSIVELY to be false, yet they rehash the same "evidence" which has already been proven to be wrong or use their personal faith as "evidence"... I would put disbelief in evolution in the same category...

I don't see how upset you can be with the above statement...the entire forum condemns the whole Westboro Baptist Church for saying that soldiers death/hurricanes/murder rates are tied to America's acceptance of homosexuality, something that everyone would say is completely and utterly false (and most likely laughable). Here is a a stance that has no scientific justification what so ever, just the church's "faith" in the cause of all these terrible things. Is it not upsetting for you to see them take that position on faith alone? Wouldn't you have a condescending attitude if you were to ever talk to one of them, or would you say "golly shucks, I'm not being open minded enough concerning their different viewpoint, maybe I'm just a little insecure..." I think the answer is obvious...


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- blaarg   Mike Huckabee   Nov 13 2007, 06:37 PM
- - THECHICKEN   I kind of like him from what i've seen.   Nov 13 2007, 07:54 PM
- - lamont's lament   wow, you are stupid to think the average american ...   Nov 13 2007, 07:55 PM
- - Spectatrix   Not that it's a quality I particularly care to...   Nov 13 2007, 08:24 PM
- - Testm0nkey   i dislike living in a country where religion is so...   Nov 13 2007, 08:32 PM
- - lamont's lament   right, because in big cities, religion is strictly...   Nov 13 2007, 08:36 PM
- - Testm0nkey   yes actually. im less likely to find groups of pe...   Nov 13 2007, 08:37 PM
- - Forum Warrior   We should murder, rape, and torture all who oppose...   Nov 13 2007, 08:46 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Forum Warrior @ Nov 13 2007, 08:46...   Nov 13 2007, 09:39 PM
- - THECHICKEN   oppress unto others before they oppress unto you   Nov 13 2007, 09:46 PM
- - jonathan83   QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 13 2007, 06:37 PM) Mi...   Nov 13 2007, 10:18 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:18 PM...   Nov 13 2007, 10:30 PM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 13 2007, 10:30 PM) We...   Nov 13 2007, 10:37 PM
||- - pebkac   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:37 PM...   Nov 13 2007, 10:44 PM
||- - blaarg   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:37 PM...   Nov 14 2007, 12:51 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 13 2007, 10:30 PM) di...   Nov 13 2007, 10:54 PM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:54 PM...   Nov 14 2007, 12:31 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 12:31 AM) An...   Nov 14 2007, 12:47 AM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 12:47 AM...   Nov 14 2007, 01:00 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 01:00 AM) ar...   Nov 14 2007, 02:11 AM
- - Testm0nkey   for me if a candidate doesnt believe in evolution ...   Nov 13 2007, 10:56 PM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 13 2007, 10:56 PM...   Nov 13 2007, 10:59 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:59 PM...   Nov 13 2007, 11:05 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 13 2007, 11:05 PM) I ...   Nov 13 2007, 11:10 PM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 13 2007, 11:05 PM) Si...   Nov 14 2007, 12:45 AM
|- - Forum Warrior   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 12:45 AM...   Nov 14 2007, 07:14 PM
- - chook   I need to lead another Catholic Inquisition!...   Nov 13 2007, 11:00 PM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (chook @ Nov 13 2007, 11:00 PM) I n...   Nov 14 2007, 07:46 AM
- - THECHICKEN   I prefer my presidents to not be too hardcore into...   Nov 13 2007, 11:00 PM
- - Testm0nkey   yeah i dont think anyone who says they are anti re...   Nov 13 2007, 11:01 PM
|- - THECHICKEN   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 13 2007, 11:01 PM...   Nov 13 2007, 11:05 PM
- - Oasis   Got my vote   Nov 13 2007, 11:03 PM
- - jonathan83   and just for the record, i dont even know anything...   Nov 13 2007, 11:04 PM
- - jonathan83   for the record, i don't even know where i stan...   Nov 14 2007, 12:49 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 12:49 AM...   Nov 14 2007, 12:51 AM
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|- - blaarg   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 02:17 AM...   Nov 14 2007, 05:51 PM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 05:51 PM) wo...   Nov 14 2007, 08:29 PM
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|- - Forum Warrior   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 08:29 PM...   Nov 14 2007, 09:22 PM
- - THECHICKEN   He's a christian... i don't get it. Most e...   Nov 14 2007, 01:07 AM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 01:07 AM...   Nov 14 2007, 01:09 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 01:09 AM) Ye...   Nov 14 2007, 02:12 AM
- - TTUAthleticTrainer   Wait, can someone explain the "creationism...   Nov 14 2007, 07:54 AM
- - Spectatrix   Duane - Most Christians believe some interpretatio...   Nov 14 2007, 08:14 AM
- - THECHICKEN   Every true christian believes that jesus is the so...   Nov 14 2007, 09:41 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 09:41 AM...   Nov 14 2007, 04:42 PM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 09:41 AM...   Nov 14 2007, 05:49 PM
|- - Spectatrix   QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 05:49 PM) la...   Nov 14 2007, 06:52 PM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (blaarg @ Nov 14 2007, 05:49 PM) la...   Nov 14 2007, 08:26 PM
- - Spectatrix   Hey, but at least he's "Chuck Norris appr...   Nov 14 2007, 10:15 AM
- - lamont's lament   i think we've found our new billy   Nov 14 2007, 06:39 PM
|- - Forum Warrior   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 14 2007, 06...   Nov 14 2007, 07:12 PM
- - jonathan83   note that many were previously atheists and evolut...   Nov 14 2007, 08:48 PM
- - blaarg   I like the part of: "As time permits, more na...   Nov 14 2007, 08:50 PM
- - lamont's lament   i think this thread teleported us all back to 4th ...   Nov 14 2007, 08:52 PM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 14 2007, 08...   Nov 14 2007, 08:56 PM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Nov 14 2007, 08:56 PM...   Nov 15 2007, 12:56 AM
- - lamont's lament   that wasn't directed at you.   Nov 14 2007, 08:56 PM
- - jonathan83   btw blaarg, read about this: http://www.amazon.com...   Nov 14 2007, 08:59 PM
- - THECHICKEN   7 days.... in god days... duh Do you know how lon...   Nov 14 2007, 09:04 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Nov 14 2007, 09:04 PM...   Nov 14 2007, 10:29 PM
- - Hartmann   Huckabee did a decent job as governor (though I th...   Nov 14 2007, 09:44 PM
- - Testm0nkey   i think the mix of religion and politics is harmfu...   Nov 14 2007, 10:05 PM
- - jonathan83   i'm not gonna try to look them up right now be...   Nov 15 2007, 03:15 AM
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- - Jessica   I dont believe in evolution... would any of you sa...   Nov 15 2007, 02:15 PM
|- - Forum Warrior   QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 15 2007, 02:15 PM) I...   Nov 15 2007, 06:05 PM
|- - blaarg   QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 15 2007, 02:15 PM) I...   Nov 16 2007, 05:16 PM
- - lamont's lament   am i the only one that notices the gigantic agnost...   Nov 15 2007, 06:15 PM
- - Testm0nkey   brain development pretty much proves evolution. i ...   Nov 15 2007, 07:56 PM
|- - Divergent Reality   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 15 2007, 07:56 PM...   Nov 15 2007, 07:57 PM
- - Testm0nkey   super abridged version but the similarities betwee...   Nov 15 2007, 08:24 PM
- - Hartmann   I think it is near impossible to say anything conc...   Nov 15 2007, 10:35 PM
- - THECHICKEN   Through time things have gotten progressively more...   Nov 15 2007, 10:41 PM
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- - Testm0nkey   i never said we knew everything but its much less ...   Nov 16 2007, 04:49 PM
- - Psykopath   RE: Mike Huckabee   Nov 16 2007, 08:40 PM
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