Mike Huckabee, Are you KIDDING me?! Options

[blaarg]

This guy is polling in the 20% range in Iowa. Are you FUCKING kidding me!??!

Mike Huckabee:
Doesn't believe in evolution.
Is an ordained minister who thinks that faith "makes us less judgmental, as we see others with the same frailties we have," yet would champion an effort to amend the constitution for a gay marriage ban.
Against stem cell research.
Support the war in Iraq.
"My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them."

Hey but at least he believes in being environmentally responsible!

(all quotes/opinions taken from his website)

This is fucking ridiculous, and I love how he gets all upset when he gets asked the evolution question. "It's interesting that that question would even be asked for somebody running for President. I'm not planning on writing the curriculum in an 8th grade science book, I'm asking to have the opportunity to become the President of the United States." I think it is an extremely VALID question, it shows how he is 1) a religious zealot 2) is crazy thinking that there is a possibility that God created everything in 6 days.

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[jonathan83]

for the record, i don't even know where i stand on evolution. it could have happened, or not. i dont know. i dont think ANYONE on here has done enough research to know for sure, have you? it just doesnt matter all that much to me.

we're here. i dont care how.

[Psykopath]

for the record, i don't even know where i stand on evolution. it could have happened, or not. i dont know. i dont think ANYONE on here has done enough research to know for sure, have you? it just doesnt matter all that much to me.

we're here. i dont care how.

Wait, which do you not believe in: 1.) the concept of evolution or 2.) that humans evolved from apes?

This post has been edited by Psykopath: Nov 14 2007, 12:51 AM

[jonathan83]

Wait, which do you not believe in: 1.) the concept of evolution or 2.) that humans evolved from apes?

the concept is plausible, but not proven. i'm just stating this mainly for devil's advocate purposes (since nobody else is saying it).

[Psykopath]

the concept is plausible, but not proven. i'm just stating this mainly for devil's advocate purposes (since nobody else is saying it).

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You really don't believe that certain traits in life have evolved to better the survival of certain species, etc., etc., etc.?

Also: Do you believe that the Earth is several billion years old, or merely a few thousand?

This post has been edited by Psykopath: Nov 14 2007, 12:57 AM

[jonathan83]

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You really don't believe that certain traits in life have evolved to better the survival of certain species, etc., etc., etc.?

Also: Do you believe that the Earth is several billion years old, or merely a few thousand?

zach...read my last post. i said that i was stating this mainly for the devil's advocate approach.

as far as the earth being billions of years old or thousands? i have no idea. i'm not a scientist. i kinda see both sides. carbon-dating is known to not be that effective, so i dunno. it wouldn't really change my outlook on life either way. i mean, being christian, i believe in god. i don't know how exactly he created the world, but i believe he did in some way. whether it was through evolution, yes, it's possible! but who knows, maybe it happened another way. he could've created the earth in 6 days (through some means i have no way of comprehending), or maybe one day in god's eyes are thousands of years? no clue again.

[blaarg]

as far as the earth being billions of years old or thousands? i have no idea. i'm not a scientist. i kinda see both sides.

wow.

you even recognizing that there is possibility of earth only being a couple of thousand years old is pretty astonishing (your ability to see "both sides" of a one sided issue)...

[jonathan83]

wow.

you even recognizing that there is possibility of earth only being a couple of thousand years old is pretty astonishing (your ability to see "both sides" of a one sided issue)...

you even saying that you know for sure earth is millions of years old is astonishing...since you're not a scientist or have any experience in the matter.

i've read arguments on both sides, and the other side does have a lot of interesting things to say (and from leading scientists as well). i remember them saying a lot about how carbon-dating uses a fixed variable that's wayyy off, and basically say it's worthless. i don't know about it, but it's just stuff i've read by researching myself a little bit.

i thought liberals were supposed to be open-minded? that's why i like staying in the middle.

[blaarg]

you even saying that you know for sure earth is millions of years old is astonishing...since you're not a scientist or have any experience in the matter.

i've read arguments on both sides, and the other side does have a lot of interesting things to say (and from leading scientists as well). i remember them saying a lot about how carbon-dating uses a fixed variable that's wayyy off, and basically say it's worthless. i don't know about it, but it's just stuff i've read by researching myself a little bit.

i thought liberals were supposed to be open-minded? that's why i like staying in the middle.

all I can say is wow.

I didn't know I got teleported back to the 1600's....

please bring up sources of these "reputable" scientists who think that the earth is thousands of years old...
ten dollars say they are all got their PhDs in theology...

and if being a liberal means that I am close-minded to egregiously incorrect statements, then I'm guilty as charged..

[jonathan83]

please bring up sources of these "reputable" scientists who think that the earth is thousands of years old...
ten dollars say they are all got their PhDs in theology...

http://www.creationists.org/outstanding.html
you owe me $10.