 Texas Secession |
| Texas Secession |
 Oct 5 2007, 12:01 PM
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So this was brought up on the radio yesterday. Apparently there movements in several states (Alaska, Hawaii, and a few others... lol Vermont?) and just about everyone who called in agreed that it'd be a great idea and they think we could succeed as our own nation. What do you guys think?
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Oct 5 2007, 01:16 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
This seems fitting for this thread right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4xs3wQusjo So, we could suddenly afford our own "Texas Sized"(added that in to be facetious, obviously) military? Do those that support succession believe that things would be better or worse than now for the general populace of Texas? What style government would you want and do you feel there would be enough support for said government to function? Considering most of those "Republic of Texas" numbnuts are racists, inbred, pricks...I don't know how much they'd support a real democracy. 
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Oct 5 2007, 01:31 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 5 2007, 02:16 PM)  heheh cool. i have a huge collection of all (i think it's all of em) of those bud light commercials in mp3. if anyone wants em lemme know and i'll try to zip em up and put it up somewhere. QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 5 2007, 02:16 PM) So, we could suddenly afford our own "Texas Sized"(added that in to be facetious, obviously) military? Do those that support succession believe that things would be better or worse than now for the general populace of Texas? What style government would you want and do you feel there would be enough support for said government to function? I think we'd have a very powerful military. We are a huge state and no doubt have a lot of folks in the armed forces that would come over with the secession. We have a pretty good infrastructure with bases and such (it's not like the U.S. could just uproot a base and take it with them). We have most of the aerospace and weapons companies, and a huge stockpile of U.S. nuclear weapons are in Amarillo. We're still strategically placed, between the U.S and Mexico. I would forsee a possible war with Mexico as their corrupt ass govt could possibly think they could take us over again... that could be interesting depending on who the U.S. would back. I think democracy would work fine. It's already practiced and Texas state law is already very indicative of the population's views (obviously much more conservative in general than the rest of the U.S.). QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 5 2007, 02:16 PM) Considering most of those "Republic of Texas" numbnuts are racists, inbred, pricks...I don't know how much they'd support a real democracy. Well I don't think the Republic of Texas proponents have much of a following really. |
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Oct 5 2007, 01:40 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 02:31 PM) I think we'd have a very powerful military. We are a huge state and no doubt have a lot of folks in the armed forces that would come over with the secession. Would the US government suddenly allow a chunk of the military to go AWOL? QUOTE We have a pretty good infrastructure with bases and such (it's not like the U.S. could just uproot a base and take it with them). They'd leave the base, but take all of the US MILITARY equipment. QUOTE We have most of the aerospace and weapons companies, and a huge stockpile of U.S. nuclear weapons are in Amarillo. ...yep. Guess the US would allow a just succeeded state to keep those, right? QUOTE We're still strategically placed, between the U.S and Mexico. I would forsee a possible war with Mexico as their corrupt ass govt could possibly think they could take us over again... that could be interesting depending on who the U.S. would back. I'd see the US sitting it out thinking we'd ask for their help then swooping in to make the save with the clause that we re-enter the Union. Though it's Mexico...I feel Texas could at least hold its own, given the necessary military equipment/training was there. QUOTE I think democracy would work fine. It's already practiced and Texas state law is already very indicative of the population's views (obviously much more conservative in general than the rest of the U.S.). Well I don't think the Republic of Texas proponents have much of a following really. Yeah, but I'd fear certain "Christian morality" laws would come into play. Morality police peeping in bedrooms and such...oh wait, already happened. -------------------- |
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Oct 5 2007, 01:50 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 5 2007, 02:40 PM) Would the US government suddenly allow a chunk of the military to go AWOL? They'd leave the base, but take all of the US MILITARY equipment. ...yep. Guess the US would allow a just succeeded state to keep those, right? I'd see the US sitting it out thinking we'd ask for their help then swooping in to make the save with the clause that we re-enter the Union. Though it's Mexico...I feel Texas could at least hold its own, given the necessary military equipment/training was there. Well but then again how much has the state of texas contributed to those weapons/equipment? how many texas residents currently in the military would leave texas just to stay in the US military? it's a really interesting topic I think, because it's not an everyday occurence. the U.S. could not take every desk and computer and stapler and rifle from this state that has a U.S. stamp on it. they also wouldn't want to have bad relations with us, especially considering we control the largest oil refining area in the area, as well as huge shipping industry. QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 5 2007, 02:40 PM) Yeah, but I'd fear certain "Christian morality" laws would come into play. Morality police peeping in bedrooms and such...oh wait, already happened. that was not in texas... QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 5 2007, 02:44 PM) U.S., in its current state, would attack Canada. so you're saying if Texas seceded, the U.S. would attack Canada?? 
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Oct 5 2007, 01:56 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 02:50 PM) that was not in texas... random google searching: http://www.sodomylaws.org/lawrence/lawrence.htm Heh...sodomylaws.org. -------------------- |
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Oct 5 2007, 02:25 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 5 2007, 02:56 PM) i figured you were referring to the senator craig thing. sodomy laws wouldn't bother me though. |
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Oct 5 2007, 03:19 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 03:25 PM) sodomy laws wouldn't bother me though. Really? You think the government has business regulating the private sexual lives of consenting adults? That's what sodomy laws amount to... Or do you just mean they wouldn't impact you personally? This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Oct 5 2007, 03:20 PM -------------------- |
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Oct 5 2007, 03:28 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 5 2007, 04:19 PM) Or do you just mean they wouldn't impact you personally? this. |
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impala454 Texas Secession Oct 5 2007, 12:01 PM
cmac i'd love to see the u.s. get rid of texas.
no,... Oct 5 2007, 12:04 PM cupcake I voted yes on all 3 counts. Oct 5 2007, 12:04 PM cmac i think alaska could be the only one that might ha... Oct 5 2007, 12:06 PM
lamont's lament QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 5 2007, 01:04 PM) i... Oct 5 2007, 04:50 PM impala454 I thought the idea of vermont seceding would be hi... Oct 5 2007, 12:06 PM cupcake QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 01:06 PM) ... Oct 5 2007, 12:15 PM Psykopath no, no, no
We lost the ability to succeed when we... Oct 5 2007, 12:16 PM cupcake ?
we currently don't pay state taxes.
our f... Oct 5 2007, 12:18 PM Psykopath QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 5 2007, 01:18 PM) ?
... Oct 5 2007, 12:25 PM cupcake hell if I know...
I know this state's GDP wou... Oct 5 2007, 12:28 PM cupcake In 2006, Texas had a gross state product of ... Oct 5 2007, 12:34 PM impala454 I believe I heard during the discussion yesterday ... Oct 5 2007, 12:35 PM 1up States wouldn't have to secede if the Union wo... Oct 5 2007, 01:28 PM impala454 QUOTE (1up @ Oct 5 2007, 02:28 PM) This i... Oct 5 2007, 01:33 PM Spectatrix QUOTE (1up @ Oct 5 2007, 02:28 PM) This i... Oct 5 2007, 01:43 PM cupcake QUOTE (1up @ Oct 5 2007, 02:28 PM) It... Oct 5 2007, 02:57 PM Spectatrix yes, yes (well, maybe, depends on what was impleme... Oct 5 2007, 01:30 PM impala454 really interesting poll results so far... 8/10 say... Oct 5 2007, 01:35 PM cmac QUOTE that could be interesting depending on who t... Oct 5 2007, 01:44 PM Oasis Marginally good idea in theory, would never work t... Oct 5 2007, 01:59 PM cmac i'm making fun of the bush administration. Oct 5 2007, 01:59 PM impala454 probably sooner rather than later if hilary is ele... Oct 5 2007, 03:03 PM cupcake cannonball's vision for the United Texas of Te... Oct 5 2007, 03:22 PM impala454 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 5 2007, 04:22 PM) -b... Oct 5 2007, 03:30 PM cupcake me too.
except around the whole state. talk about... Oct 5 2007, 03:33 PM pysex there are far more deserving states that need forc... Oct 5 2007, 05:05 PM cmac such as.... Oct 5 2007, 07:38 PM pysex QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 5 2007, 08:38 PM) such ... Oct 5 2007, 09:43 PM lamont's lament QUOTE (pysex @ Oct 5 2007, 10:43 PM) if y... Oct 5 2007, 10:03 PM impala454 QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 5 2007, 11... Oct 5 2007, 10:41 PM lamont's lament QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 11:41 PM) ... Oct 5 2007, 10:47 PM impala454 QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 5 2007, 11... Oct 6 2007, 12:33 AM Inferia QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 5 2007, 10:41 PM) ... Oct 5 2007, 11:22 PM Oasis QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 5 2007, 11... Oct 5 2007, 11:15 PM chook I think they should build a fence between Colorado... Oct 5 2007, 09:26 PM jonathan83 i voted yes, yes, no.
texas could secede and be o... Oct 5 2007, 10:32 PM pebkac Actually, I've heard that Europeans tend to lo... Oct 5 2007, 10:46 PM cmac i have a problem with texas ego. there's noth... Oct 6 2007, 08:07 AM lamont's lament QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 6 2007, 01:33 AM) ... Oct 6 2007, 08:42 AM jonathan83 QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Oct 6 2007, 09... Oct 6 2007, 01:48 PM Testm0nkey QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Oct 6 2007, 02:48 PM)... Oct 6 2007, 03:46 PM Black Bear I am not as well travelled as a lot of people, but... Oct 6 2007, 09:07 AM Testm0nkey ive never met anyone who was all about texas. the... Oct 6 2007, 09:49 AM impala454 well I do love Texas and I have a lot of pride in ... Oct 6 2007, 10:02 AM pysex what a load of inflated crap
charlie and cmac...... Oct 6 2007, 01:35 PM Black Bear I can sum my experiences with colorado like this.
... Oct 6 2007, 03:21 PM Divergent Reality QUOTE (Black Bear @ Oct 6 2007, 04:21 PM)... Oct 7 2007, 08:48 AM cmac i'm not from colorado. i lived in texas for 2... Oct 6 2007, 09:24 PM Jessica nope, nope, nope Oct 7 2007, 02:27 AM |
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