 Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
| Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
 Oct 3 2007, 08:10 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48  |
I don't have a link but it shouldn't be difficult to find. Apparently here in Texas we're halting executions because some dipshit judge decided to rule lethal injection as "cruel & unusual punishment". WTF is cruel & unusual about it!!??
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Oct 4 2007, 10:25 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
do you not understand that its been shown that more progressive detentions/prisons have less of the same people coming back. not dissappearing off the planet but because they arent being arrested/going to court
so an actual implemented rehabilitation/job work orientated prison system deters crime and repeat offenders more than putting people under lock and key 24/7 with assault rifles. this is common sense for most people -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Oct 4 2007, 12:06 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2007, 11:25 AM)  do you not understand that its been shown that more progressive detentions/prisons have less of the same people coming back. not dissappearing off the planet but because they arent being arrested/going to court so an actual implemented rehabilitation/job work orientated prison system deters crime and repeat offenders more than putting people under lock and key 24/7 with assault rifles. this is common sense for most people how can you make this statement/comparison?? we do not currently put people under lock and key 24/7 with assault rifles. we give them their own space and cable TV. |
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Oct 4 2007, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:06 PM) how can you make this statement/comparison?? we do not currently put people under lock and key 24/7 with assault rifles. we give them their own space and cable TV. Please evidence this with a link or statistics... i don't believe you -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2007, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 4 2007, 01:18 PM) Please evidence this with a link or statistics... i don't believe you hah I like this. and when he does provide statistics shrug them off by saying they mean nothing and are insignificant. --------------------  |
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Oct 4 2007, 01:07 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:53 PM) hah I like this. and when he does provide statistics shrug them off by saying they mean nothing and are insignificant. it's not my fault you failed to understand the only statistics you posted. |
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Oct 4 2007, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 02:07 PM) it's not my fault you failed to understand the only statistics you posted. No I am fully aware of the statistics I've provided. I know that two to three times the homicide rate as most industrialized countries is a big deal and is significant. So what is a significant homicide rate? You keep bypassing this, and I have an idea of why this is.... -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2007, 01:54 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 02:13 PM) No I am fully aware of the statistics I've provided. I know that two to three times the homicide rate as most industrialized countries is a big deal and is significant. So what is a significant homicide rate? You keep bypassing this, and I have an idea of why this is.... well look at the percentages and decide... to me a change from 0.0045% to 0.0023% isn't much. if it went up an order of magnitude, say to 0.045% then yeah that's much more significant. but they don't there's not some country in that list where you go in and have a 10x greater chance of being murdered. |
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impala454 Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Oct 3 2007, 08:10 AM
Jim Maybe we forgot to tell him we alcohol swab the ar... Oct 3 2007, 08:15 AM impala454 yeah the radio is talking about it and the host go... Oct 3 2007, 08:21 AM Oasis Who gives a fuck? We're killing losers Oct 3 2007, 08:22 AM
Jim QUOTE (Oasis @ Oct 3 2007, 07:22 AM) Who ... Oct 3 2007, 08:23 AM cmac death penalty is cruel and unusual Oct 3 2007, 08:24 AM cupcake QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 3 2007, 09:24 AM) death... Oct 3 2007, 09:13 AM Testm0nkey QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 3 2007, 09:24 AM) death... Oct 3 2007, 01:06 PM impala454 it was even more cruel & unusual for these peo... Oct 3 2007, 08:25 AM Dr. Gonzo Cmac got it. The argument is not whether the metho... Oct 3 2007, 08:28 AM Hartmann I say put the convicts to work like they used to. ... Oct 3 2007, 08:31 AM impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:28 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:32 AM Dr. Gonzo Hmm, interesting. My point still stands, I can... Oct 3 2007, 08:35 AM Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:35 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 3 2007, 09:40 AM) I... Oct 3 2007, 08:43 AM Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:43 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:46 AM impala454 gah and i posted the article and everything...
QU... Oct 3 2007, 08:36 AM cmac QUOTE I say put the convicts to work like they use... Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM impala454 i like how that former general dude in arizona has... Oct 3 2007, 08:46 AM pebkac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_inject...gumen... Oct 3 2007, 09:48 AM impala454 /tear Oct 3 2007, 09:52 AM Spectatrix I don't have much pity for convicted murderers... Oct 3 2007, 10:02 AM cupcake QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 3 2007, 11:02 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:32 AM RitalinJunkie QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) th... Oct 3 2007, 10:36 AM pebkac QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) I ... Oct 3 2007, 10:38 AM THECHICKEN QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) I ... Oct 3 2007, 10:39 AM cupcake QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 11:39 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:46 AM pebkac QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 11:39 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:49 AM impala454 well imho no real research is needed. if they die... Oct 3 2007, 10:10 AM RitalinJunkie bring back the firing squad....its cheaper....
on... Oct 3 2007, 10:19 AM THECHICKEN This will be over-ruled... i would assume
The dea... Oct 3 2007, 10:24 AM cupcake tarp...just wrap that fucker up and dump it all in... Oct 3 2007, 10:38 AM impala454 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:38 AM) ta... Oct 3 2007, 11:15 AM impala454 yeah that's it... it's the court system... Oct 3 2007, 01:09 PM Testm0nkey if they let a rapist out after 3 years yes Oct 3 2007, 01:10 PM impala454 heaven forbid the criminal be blamed... yeah this ... Oct 3 2007, 01:12 PM Testm0nkey rapist is blamed thats why hes in prison. to allo... Oct 3 2007, 01:15 PM pebkac I think what Cathryn is trying to say is that we f... Oct 3 2007, 01:24 PM impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 02:24 PM) I t... Oct 3 2007, 01:52 PM pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 02:52 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 05:23 PM lamont's lament QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Ans... Oct 3 2007, 06:53 PM impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Yea... Oct 3 2007, 07:47 PM blaarg QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Ans... Oct 4 2007, 12:16 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:16 AM) I t... Oct 4 2007, 12:26 AM Testm0nkey that was my first point Oct 3 2007, 01:45 PM Spectatrix I think it's a little far-fetched to claim tha... Oct 3 2007, 01:57 PM impala454 haha "pillage"... you damn renaissance ... Oct 3 2007, 02:04 PM Spectatrix Rape the women, kill the childen, pillage, plunder... Oct 3 2007, 02:06 PM cupcake if one does not commit a motral crime (which shoul... Oct 3 2007, 02:06 PM THECHICKEN Its interesting that we have a society that wants ... Oct 3 2007, 02:57 PM blaarg QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 03:57 PM)... Oct 3 2007, 04:18 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 3 2007, 05:18 PM) I r... Oct 3 2007, 05:07 PM impala454 well the bottom line is prison is nicer than a lot... Oct 3 2007, 03:04 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:18 PM Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:20 PM impala454 do you really believe that every criminal whose be... Oct 3 2007, 03:21 PM Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:21 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:27 PM impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 3 2007, 04:27 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 04:26 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:26 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 05:05 PM Testm0nkey they wash their own sheets mostly. laundry seems ... Oct 3 2007, 03:27 PM blaarg RE: Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Oct 3 2007, 04:15 PM THECHICKEN Impala, do you.... is that really.... are seri...
... Oct 3 2007, 08:06 PM impala454 QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 09:06 PM)... Oct 3 2007, 08:19 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 09:19 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 10:44 PM impala454 QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 11:44 PM)... Oct 4 2007, 12:18 AM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:18 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 01:29 AM impala454 QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 4 2007, 02:29 AM)... Oct 4 2007, 09:30 AM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 10:30 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 12:04 PM impala454 QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 4 2007, 01:04 PM)... Oct 4 2007, 12:08 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:08 PM) ... Oct 4 2007, 12:17 PM impala454 QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 4 2007, 01:17 PM)... Oct 4 2007, 01:05 PM blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 09:19 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 11:51 PM blaarg I am curious that if the #'s backed your claim... Oct 4 2007, 12:29 AM impala454 i wouldn't argue over such a small difference,... Oct 4 2007, 12:30 AM blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:30 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 12:42 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:42 AM) Yea... Oct 4 2007, 12:54 AM blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:54 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 01:06 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 02:06 AM) so ... Oct 4 2007, 09:27 AM blaarg and yes, 2 or 3 murders per 100,000 is substantial... Oct 4 2007, 12:32 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:32 AM) and... Oct 4 2007, 12:41 AM blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:41 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 12:45 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:45 AM) Thi... Oct 4 2007, 12:53 AM blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:53 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 01:00 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 02:00 AM) I d... Oct 4 2007, 09:25 AM blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 10:25 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 10:24 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 11:24 AM) I... Oct 4 2007, 12:03 PM impala454 that data you linked is an 11MB excel file, you ca... Oct 4 2007, 12:32 AM blaarg QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:32 AM) ... Oct 4 2007, 12:38 AM THECHICKEN QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:53 PM) hah... Oct 4 2007, 02:22 PM blaarg I am just absolutely dumbfounded how you can say t... Oct 4 2007, 01:08 PM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 02:08 PM) I a... Oct 4 2007, 01:10 PM Testm0nkey my under lock and key 24/7 with assault rifles was... Oct 4 2007, 01:27 PM impala454 QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2007, 02:27 PM)... Oct 4 2007, 01:56 PM |
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