Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Options

[impala454]

I don't have a link but it shouldn't be difficult to find. Apparently here in Texas we're halting executions because some dipshit judge decided to rule lethal injection as "cruel & unusual punishment". WTF is cruel & unusual about it!!??

[THECHICKEN]

Impala, do you.... is that really.... are seri...

Nevermind, sadly i know the answer


And i love how you put "social hierarchy" as a Plus in prison LOLOL

As in "you go hurt that person, or smuggle "x" or else we hurt you bad"
-Real good social hierarchy

And yes, beatings, rapings, etc. are very common in prison. As is fraud, and black mail. The "media" isn't making that up... im sorry if you think so.

[impala454]

And i love how you put "social hierarchy" as a Plus in prison LOLOL

As in "you go hurt that person, or smuggle "x" or else we hurt you bad"
-Real good social hierarchy

is it really that frigging insane for you or anyone else to have the notion that to some people, jail is a way of life? and that perhaps if jails didn't provide 3 meals a day, and clean clothes, and a place to sleep, and TV, that people might not want to go there?!?

And yes, beatings, rapings, etc. are very common in prison. As is fraud, and black mail. The "media" isn't making that up... im sorry if you think so.

lets see it. start linkin. lets see all these rapes and beatings and murders that occur in prison on an apparently daily basis. come on, it should be easy to find it's so common. i mean, jails are just giant concrete boxes with no guards and no bars, it's like a giant murderous rapist free for all!

[THECHICKEN]

is it really that frigging insane for you or anyone else to have the notion that to some people, jail is a way of life? and that perhaps if jails didn't provide 3 meals a day, and clean clothes, and a place to sleep, and TV, that people might not want to go there?!?
lets see it. start linkin. lets see all these rapes and beatings and murders that occur in prison on an apparently daily basis. come on, it should be easy to find it's so common. i mean, jails are just giant concrete boxes with no guards and no bars, it's like a giant murderous rapist free for all!

How about this... you link me up with the info on how inmates "WANT TO GO TO JAIL" to have shitty food, prison clothes (lol) and a horrible place to sleep (because a cell with another person and a toilet that has no privacy is so much better than a homeless shelter)... all at the cost of violent attacks, rape, robbery, and fraud...

Link me up with these statistics my man, i can't wait to see how many inmates go back to jail BECAUSE THEY WANT TOO, because its SO EASY, and not because they are in a vicious cycle that doesn't let them out... show me how our system is TOO EASY

Oh and type "prison violence statistics" in google and it'll bring up the federal reports on prisons. It only has rapes (which are scary alone [since the number of reported attacks is much lower]) and homicide rates.

Other than that im not copy pasting the obvious.

[impala454]

How about this... you link me up with the info on how inmates "WANT TO GO TO JAIL" to have shitty food, prison clothes (lol) and a horrible place to sleep (because a cell with another person and a toilet that has no privacy is so much better than a homeless shelter)... all at the cost of violent attacks, rape, robbery, and fraud...

Link me up with these statistics my man, i can't wait to see how many inmates go back to jail BECAUSE THEY WANT TOO, because its SO EASY, and not because they are in a vicious cycle that doesn't let them out... show me how our system is TOO EASY

you guys have successfully misread every post i've put in this thread. you keep reading further than what I"m putting down. I never once said people want to go to jail. I don't have to link anything... the proof is in the pudding, you guys were the ones that posted that 60% of the prison pop is repeat offenders. the mofos obviously don't feel that jail is a bad enough punishment to stop commiting crimes once they get out!

Oh and type "prison violence statistics" in google and it'll bring up the federal reports on prisons. It only has rapes (which are scary alone [since the number of reported attacks is much lower]) and homicide rates.

if it's so easy to find why the hell didn't you just link it or quote it? geez am I gonna have to debate with myself now?

[THECHICKEN]

you guys have successfully misread every post i've put in this thread. you keep reading further than what I"m putting down. I never once said people want to go to jail. I don't have to link anything... the proof is in the pudding, you guys were the ones that posted that 60% of the prison pop is repeat offenders. the mofos obviously don't feel that jail is a bad enough punishment to stop commiting crimes once they get out!
if it's so easy to find why the hell didn't you just link it or quote it? geez am I gonna have to debate with myself now?

Thats just it, you aren't debating... and im tired of hitting my head against a wall.

One proffessor today said something that is absolutely golden: "don't argue... because hammering someone until they finally give up ARGUING with you just makes you annoying. The key is PERSUADING someone to your view."

Multiple people put how they think the numbers of repeat offenders is because of a societal cycle of condemning and never reintegrating into society. And instead of trying to persuade us why we were off the mark you do your normal "Where is your evidence of everything you happen to think on every subject, to prove that MY (impala's) belief about the system being TOO easy is wrong?"

You haven't proved shit about your single hypothesis of jail being too easy (and thats the reason for repeat offenders) and yet you try to say you are arguing by continually screaming for evidence on something that is theoretical.

Statistics show that even with a confirmed system of not reporting attacks by fellow inmates, there are lots of rapes, attacks, and fraud. BUT WHY AM I TRYING TO LOOK THAT UP? Why do i need to show that prison is actually a horrible place to settle impalas belief that prison is too easy, instead of just making an argument that the reason we have repeat offenders is because we don't REHABILITATE THEM?

Who cares about the statistics so much that we have to argue about what .23 of 1000 people means?

/rant complete
(lol im so tired... apologies for retarded fatigue speech)

[impala454]

Thats just it, you aren't debating... and im tired of hitting my head against a wall.

One proffessor today said something that is absolutely golden: "don't argue... because hammering someone until they finally give up ARGUING with you just makes you annoying. The key is PERSUADING someone to your view."

Multiple people put how they think the numbers of repeat offenders is because of a societal cycle of condemning and never reintegrating into society. And instead of trying to persuade us why we were off the mark you do your normal "Where is your evidence of everything you happen to think on every subject, to prove that MY (impala's) belief about the system being TOO easy is wrong?"

You haven't proved shit about your single hypothesis of jail being too easy (and thats the reason for repeat offenders) and yet you try to say you are arguing by continually screaming for evidence on something that is theoretical.

Statistics show that even with a confirmed system of not reporting attacks by fellow inmates, there are lots of rapes, attacks, and fraud. BUT WHY AM I TRYING TO LOOK THAT UP? Why do i need to show that prison is actually a horrible place to settle impalas belief that prison is too easy, instead of just making an argument that the reason we have repeat offenders is because we don't REHABILITATE THEM?

Who cares about the statistics so much that we have to argue about what .23 of 1000 people means?

/rant complete
(lol im so tired... apologies for retarded fatigue speech)

how do I provide statistics of something that doesn't happen? it's you guys claiming that all these terrible things happen. it's you guys who claimed that 60% of people in jail are repeat offenders. obviously jail wasn't bad enough to deterr them from commiting another crime! what other stat do you need than what's already been posted!??

[THECHICKEN]

how do I provide statistics of something that doesn't happen? it's you guys claiming that all these terrible things happen. it's you guys who claimed that 60% of people in jail are repeat offenders. obviously jail wasn't bad enough to deterr them from commiting another crime! what other stat do you need than what's already been posted!??

Sorry, i can't take that post serious without statistics,

Please provide statistics it doesn't happen, thanks

(by the way, this is my default response to anything you say now... we'll see how well the "argument" goes)