 Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
| Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
 Oct 3 2007, 08:10 AM
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I don't have a link but it shouldn't be difficult to find. Apparently here in Texas we're halting executions because some dipshit judge decided to rule lethal injection as "cruel & unusual punishment". WTF is cruel & unusual about it!!??
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Oct 3 2007, 02:57 PM
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Its interesting that we have a society that wants to publicly shame and condemn people for their actions in order to prevent them from doing it again, yet there is no public "welcome back to society for doing your time" ceremony that removes the stigma of being a criminal. That stigma lends to not allowing ex-cons reintegrating back into society and bettering themselves.
Total rehabilitation without punishment is useless because it doesn't shame and change the criminals viewpoint, but pure punishment without rehab leads to harding of criminals and making the reintergration that much harder. Yes its the criminals fault, but unless we want to bury every law violator in a hole and forget about them, we need to make sure to help them to not hurt society again. -------------------- |
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Oct 3 2007, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 03:57 PM)  Its interesting that we have a society that wants to publicly shame and condemn people for their actions in order to prevent them from doing it again, yet there is no public "welcome back to society for doing your time" ceremony that removes the stigma of being a criminal. That stigma lends to not allowing ex-cons reintegrating back into society and bettering themselves. I really believe that this is the biggest problem, reintegrating ex-cons into society is so fucking hard. I have an uncle who committed a felony and did time (I think we all have one of these in the extended family) and it has been a ridiculous struggle for him to find an ok job and housing that would accept a felon. Yeah he is living with his punishment, but goddamn give them a chance after a while. I think that this is a BIG reason why 60% of the people in the "slammer" are at least second timers... Edit:: This has nothing to do with capital punishment cases obvious, because they should be behind bars fo' life. --------------------  |
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impala454 Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Oct 3 2007, 08:10 AM
Jim Maybe we forgot to tell him we alcohol swab the ar... Oct 3 2007, 08:15 AM impala454 yeah the radio is talking about it and the host go... Oct 3 2007, 08:21 AM Oasis Who gives a fuck? We're killing losers Oct 3 2007, 08:22 AM
Jim QUOTE (Oasis @ Oct 3 2007, 07:22 AM) Who ... Oct 3 2007, 08:23 AM cmac death penalty is cruel and unusual Oct 3 2007, 08:24 AM cupcake QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 3 2007, 09:24 AM) death... Oct 3 2007, 09:13 AM Testm0nkey QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 3 2007, 09:24 AM) death... Oct 3 2007, 01:06 PM impala454 it was even more cruel & unusual for these peo... Oct 3 2007, 08:25 AM Dr. Gonzo Cmac got it. The argument is not whether the metho... Oct 3 2007, 08:28 AM Hartmann I say put the convicts to work like they used to. ... Oct 3 2007, 08:31 AM impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:28 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:32 AM Dr. Gonzo Hmm, interesting. My point still stands, I can... Oct 3 2007, 08:35 AM Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:35 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 3 2007, 09:40 AM) I... Oct 3 2007, 08:43 AM Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:43 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:46 AM impala454 gah and i posted the article and everything...
QU... Oct 3 2007, 08:36 AM cmac QUOTE I say put the convicts to work like they use... Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM impala454 i like how that former general dude in arizona has... Oct 3 2007, 08:46 AM pebkac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_inject...gumen... Oct 3 2007, 09:48 AM impala454 /tear Oct 3 2007, 09:52 AM Spectatrix I don't have much pity for convicted murderers... Oct 3 2007, 10:02 AM cupcake QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 3 2007, 11:02 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:32 AM RitalinJunkie QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) th... Oct 3 2007, 10:36 AM pebkac QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) I ... Oct 3 2007, 10:38 AM THECHICKEN QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) I ... Oct 3 2007, 10:39 AM cupcake QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 11:39 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:46 AM pebkac QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 11:39 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:49 AM impala454 well imho no real research is needed. if they die... Oct 3 2007, 10:10 AM RitalinJunkie bring back the firing squad....its cheaper....
on... Oct 3 2007, 10:19 AM THECHICKEN This will be over-ruled... i would assume
The dea... Oct 3 2007, 10:24 AM cupcake tarp...just wrap that fucker up and dump it all in... Oct 3 2007, 10:38 AM impala454 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:38 AM) ta... Oct 3 2007, 11:15 AM impala454 yeah that's it... it's the court system... Oct 3 2007, 01:09 PM Testm0nkey if they let a rapist out after 3 years yes Oct 3 2007, 01:10 PM impala454 heaven forbid the criminal be blamed... yeah this ... Oct 3 2007, 01:12 PM Testm0nkey rapist is blamed thats why hes in prison. to allo... Oct 3 2007, 01:15 PM pebkac I think what Cathryn is trying to say is that we f... Oct 3 2007, 01:24 PM impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 02:24 PM) I t... Oct 3 2007, 01:52 PM pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 02:52 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 05:23 PM lamont's lament QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Ans... Oct 3 2007, 06:53 PM impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Yea... Oct 3 2007, 07:47 PM blaarg QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Ans... Oct 4 2007, 12:16 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:16 AM) I t... Oct 4 2007, 12:26 AM Testm0nkey that was my first point Oct 3 2007, 01:45 PM Spectatrix I think it's a little far-fetched to claim tha... Oct 3 2007, 01:57 PM impala454 haha "pillage"... you damn renaissance ... Oct 3 2007, 02:04 PM Spectatrix Rape the women, kill the childen, pillage, plunder... Oct 3 2007, 02:06 PM cupcake if one does not commit a motral crime (which shoul... Oct 3 2007, 02:06 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 3 2007, 05:18 PM) I r... Oct 3 2007, 05:07 PM impala454 well the bottom line is prison is nicer than a lot... Oct 3 2007, 03:04 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:18 PM Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:20 PM impala454 do you really believe that every criminal whose be... Oct 3 2007, 03:21 PM Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:21 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:27 PM impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 3 2007, 04:27 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 04:26 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:26 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 05:05 PM Testm0nkey they wash their own sheets mostly. laundry seems ... Oct 3 2007, 03:27 PM blaarg RE: Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Oct 3 2007, 04:15 PM THECHICKEN Impala, do you.... is that really.... are seri...
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