 Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
| Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? |
 Oct 3 2007, 08:10 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48  |
I don't have a link but it shouldn't be difficult to find. Apparently here in Texas we're halting executions because some dipshit judge decided to rule lethal injection as "cruel & unusual punishment". WTF is cruel & unusual about it!!??
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Oct 3 2007, 10:02 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
I don't have much pity for convicted murderers and rapists, but I do believe that we have a moral obligation to ensure that their state-administered deaths are not exceedingly painful. We should not be in the business of torture.
Now I don't know for sure whether lethal injection is excrutiatingly painful, as opponents claim. I'd like to see more research done into this. -------------------- |
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Oct 3 2007, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 3 2007, 11:02 AM)  I don't have much pity for convicted murderers and rapists, but I do believe that we have a moral obligation to ensure that their state-administered deaths are not exceedingly painful. We should not be in the business of torture. Now I don't know for sure whether lethal injection is excrutiatingly painful, as opponents claim. I'd like to see more research done into this. I agree to an extent. Death does not have to be painful. However, we like to make ourselves feel good about doing dirty deeds (which is REALLY where all this is coming from). I mean, if we truly cared about a quick and painless death we would blindfold them, and stick a .45 to their temple (at 14 cents a round mind you). The condemned would never feel a thing. But that is gruesome, and we would harbor horrible feelings seeing grey matter splattered everywhere after that ear-ringing BANG... the cleanest method we can execute someone is by lethal injection (though I'm sure it's far more painful...like burning and shit). but hey, it makes us feel better because there isn't a huge mess of shit to clean up! |
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Oct 3 2007, 10:36 AM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) the cleanest method we can execute someone is by lethal injection (though I'm sure it's far more painful...like burning and shit). but hey, it makes us feel better because there isn't a huge mess of shit to clean up! I know this is kind of a brandon thing to say....but, you know, all you need is a tile floor, a drain, and a hose. Convict dies quickly in a relatively humane way, clean up is easy, and its really cheap. -------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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impala454 Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Oct 3 2007, 08:10 AM
Jim Maybe we forgot to tell him we alcohol swab the ar... Oct 3 2007, 08:15 AM impala454 yeah the radio is talking about it and the host go... Oct 3 2007, 08:21 AM Oasis Who gives a fuck? We're killing losers Oct 3 2007, 08:22 AM
Jim QUOTE (Oasis @ Oct 3 2007, 07:22 AM) Who ... Oct 3 2007, 08:23 AM cmac death penalty is cruel and unusual Oct 3 2007, 08:24 AM cupcake QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 3 2007, 09:24 AM) death... Oct 3 2007, 09:13 AM Testm0nkey QUOTE (cmac @ Oct 3 2007, 09:24 AM) death... Oct 3 2007, 01:06 PM impala454 it was even more cruel & unusual for these peo... Oct 3 2007, 08:25 AM Dr. Gonzo Cmac got it. The argument is not whether the metho... Oct 3 2007, 08:28 AM Hartmann I say put the convicts to work like they used to. ... Oct 3 2007, 08:31 AM impala454 QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:28 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:32 AM Dr. Gonzo Hmm, interesting. My point still stands, I can... Oct 3 2007, 08:35 AM Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:35 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM Dr. Gonzo QUOTE (Hartmann @ Oct 3 2007, 09:40 AM) I... Oct 3 2007, 08:43 AM Hartmann QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 3 2007, 09:43 AM) ... Oct 3 2007, 08:46 AM impala454 gah and i posted the article and everything...
QU... Oct 3 2007, 08:36 AM cmac QUOTE I say put the convicts to work like they use... Oct 3 2007, 08:40 AM impala454 i like how that former general dude in arizona has... Oct 3 2007, 08:46 AM pebkac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_inject...gumen... Oct 3 2007, 09:48 AM impala454 /tear Oct 3 2007, 09:52 AM pebkac QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) I ... Oct 3 2007, 10:38 AM THECHICKEN QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:32 AM) I ... Oct 3 2007, 10:39 AM cupcake QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 11:39 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:46 AM pebkac QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 11:39 AM)... Oct 3 2007, 10:49 AM impala454 well imho no real research is needed. if they die... Oct 3 2007, 10:10 AM RitalinJunkie bring back the firing squad....its cheaper....
on... Oct 3 2007, 10:19 AM THECHICKEN This will be over-ruled... i would assume
The dea... Oct 3 2007, 10:24 AM cupcake tarp...just wrap that fucker up and dump it all in... Oct 3 2007, 10:38 AM impala454 QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 3 2007, 11:38 AM) ta... Oct 3 2007, 11:15 AM impala454 yeah that's it... it's the court system... Oct 3 2007, 01:09 PM Testm0nkey if they let a rapist out after 3 years yes Oct 3 2007, 01:10 PM impala454 heaven forbid the criminal be blamed... yeah this ... Oct 3 2007, 01:12 PM Testm0nkey rapist is blamed thats why hes in prison. to allo... Oct 3 2007, 01:15 PM pebkac I think what Cathryn is trying to say is that we f... Oct 3 2007, 01:24 PM impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 02:24 PM) I t... Oct 3 2007, 01:52 PM pebkac QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 02:52 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 05:23 PM lamont's lament QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Ans... Oct 3 2007, 06:53 PM impala454 QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Yea... Oct 3 2007, 07:47 PM blaarg QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 3 2007, 06:23 PM) Ans... Oct 4 2007, 12:16 AM impala454 QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 4 2007, 01:16 AM) I t... Oct 4 2007, 12:26 AM Testm0nkey that was my first point Oct 3 2007, 01:45 PM Spectatrix I think it's a little far-fetched to claim tha... Oct 3 2007, 01:57 PM impala454 haha "pillage"... you damn renaissance ... Oct 3 2007, 02:04 PM Spectatrix Rape the women, kill the childen, pillage, plunder... Oct 3 2007, 02:06 PM cupcake if one does not commit a motral crime (which shoul... Oct 3 2007, 02:06 PM THECHICKEN Its interesting that we have a society that wants ... Oct 3 2007, 02:57 PM blaarg QUOTE (THECHICKEN @ Oct 3 2007, 03:57 PM)... Oct 3 2007, 04:18 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (blaarg @ Oct 3 2007, 05:18 PM) I r... Oct 3 2007, 05:07 PM impala454 well the bottom line is prison is nicer than a lot... Oct 3 2007, 03:04 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:18 PM Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:20 PM impala454 do you really believe that every criminal whose be... Oct 3 2007, 03:21 PM Psykopath QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:21 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 03:27 PM impala454 QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 3 2007, 04:27 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 04:26 PM THECHICKEN QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:26 PM) ... Oct 3 2007, 05:05 PM Testm0nkey they wash their own sheets mostly. laundry seems ... Oct 3 2007, 03:27 PM blaarg RE: Lethal Injection Cruel & Unusual? Oct 3 2007, 04:15 PM THECHICKEN Impala, do you.... is that really.... are seri...
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