Aug 7 2007, 10:24 PM
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1. Barry Bonds*
2. Hank Aaron 3. Babe Ruth 4. Willie Mays 5. Sammy Sosa* 6. Ken Griffey 7. Frank Robinson 8. Mark McGwire* 9. Harmon Killebrew 10.Rafael Palmeiro* *CHEATERS |
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Sep 27 2007, 10:27 AM
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in the 80s and early 90s it wasn't popular to be bulked up (by weight lifting) in baseball. it was argued that it slowed players down. maybe bonds just starting pumping the iron around 95.
bonds has only hit over 50 once. the 2001 season. arod has hit over 50 this season and no one has brought up steroids with him. what's to say barry just isn't/wasn't a good hitter? i don't know or care if bonds did steroids or not. if he did, i'm sure it helped. but only to muscle 5 or so more over the wall that otherwise would've been caught in play. he's still a good and consistent hitter. -------------------- Don't sweat the petty, pet the sweaty.
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Sep 27 2007, 12:09 PM
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in the 80s and early 90s it wasn't popular to be bulked up (by weight lifting) in baseball. it was argued that it slowed players down. maybe bonds just starting pumping the iron around 95. but pumping iron alone doesn't increase your hat size by a whole inch. or your shoe size by two whole sizes. bonds has only hit over 50 once. the 2001 season. but he hit 40+ eight times. when he was 29, 32, 33, 36, 37, 38, 39, and 40 years old. you also have to look at his ABs as well. he had nearly 100 fewer ABs in the three following seasons after he hit 73 (because nobody wanted to pitch to him). arod has hit over 50 this season and no one has brought up steroids with him. because he's consistently hit a lot of home runs for most of his career. out of twelve real seasons he's hit 40+ homers in 8 of them. and the other counts were 23, 36, 36. also because his head isn't the size of a basketball (not physically anyhow heheh). what's to say barry just isn't/wasn't a good hitter? I think he's a great hitter. But the 'roids are what pushed him over the top and bought him his 'record'. My guess is (and the stats would agree) if he'd have never done them, he'd probably have ended up with about a .280 avg, continued to hit 30-35 home runs per season, and probably ended up with 650+ homers anyways, which is an awesome career. if he did, i'm sure it helped. but only to muscle 5 or so more over the wall that otherwise would've been caught in play. It was a lot more than 5 or so more. He didn't average 40 homers a game early in his career. for the first 15 years of his career he averaged 31 homers per year. then starting at age 36, in 2000-2004, he goes for 49, 73, 46, 45, 45? that's an astronomical difference no matter what age you are, and he did it as an old man. he's still a good and consistent hitter. sure, just not a legitimate record holder imho. |
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