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impala454
post Aug 7 2007, 10:24 PM
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1. Barry Bonds*
2. Hank Aaron
3. Babe Ruth
4. Willie Mays
5. Sammy Sosa*
6. Ken Griffey
7. Frank Robinson
8. Mark McGwire*
9. Harmon Killebrew
10.Rafael Palmeiro*
















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cmac
post Sep 27 2007, 10:27 AM
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in the 80s and early 90s it wasn't popular to be bulked up (by weight lifting) in baseball. it was argued that it slowed players down. maybe bonds just starting pumping the iron around 95.
bonds has only hit over 50 once. the 2001 season.
arod has hit over 50 this season and no one has brought up steroids with him.
what's to say barry just isn't/wasn't a good hitter?

i don't know or care if bonds did steroids or not.
if he did, i'm sure it helped. but only to muscle 5 or so more over the wall that otherwise would've been caught in play.
he's still a good and consistent hitter.


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post Sep 27 2007, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) *
in the 80s and early 90s it wasn't popular to be bulked up (by weight lifting) in baseball. it was argued that it slowed players down. maybe bonds just starting pumping the iron around 95.

but pumping iron alone doesn't increase your hat size by a whole inch. or your shoe size by two whole sizes.

QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) *
bonds has only hit over 50 once. the 2001 season.

but he hit 40+ eight times. when he was 29, 32, 33, 36, 37, 38, 39, and 40 years old. you also have to look at his ABs as well. he had nearly 100 fewer ABs in the three following seasons after he hit 73 (because nobody wanted to pitch to him).

QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) *
arod has hit over 50 this season and no one has brought up steroids with him.

because he's consistently hit a lot of home runs for most of his career. out of twelve real seasons he's hit 40+ homers in 8 of them. and the other counts were 23, 36, 36. also because his head isn't the size of a basketball (not physically anyhow heheh).

QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) *
what's to say barry just isn't/wasn't a good hitter?

I think he's a great hitter. But the 'roids are what pushed him over the top and bought him his 'record'. My guess is (and the stats would agree) if he'd have never done them, he'd probably have ended up with about a .280 avg, continued to hit 30-35 home runs per season, and probably ended up with 650+ homers anyways, which is an awesome career.

QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) *
if he did, i'm sure it helped. but only to muscle 5 or so more over the wall that otherwise would've been caught in play.

It was a lot more than 5 or so more. He didn't average 40 homers a game early in his career. for the first 15 years of his career he averaged 31 homers per year. then starting at age 36, in 2000-2004, he goes for 49, 73, 46, 45, 45? that's an astronomical difference no matter what age you are, and he did it as an old man.

QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) *
he's still a good and consistent hitter.

sure, just not a legitimate record holder imho.
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- impala454   Top 10 All-Time Home Run Hitters   Aug 7 2007, 10:24 PM
- - schwab   eh...i fail to see how he cheated since whatever h...   Aug 7 2007, 10:37 PM
- - impala454   uh it was illegal?   Aug 7 2007, 11:38 PM
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- - impala454   but it's not a level playing field. steroids ...   Aug 9 2007, 02:57 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (impala454 @ Aug 9 2007, 03:57 PM) ...   Aug 9 2007, 03:44 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Oasis @ Aug 9 2007, 04:44 PM) That...   Aug 9 2007, 03:51 PM
- - James   Yes you can. It's called a confession. Not e...   Aug 9 2007, 03:15 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (James @ Aug 9 2007, 04:15 PM) Yes ...   Aug 9 2007, 03:21 PM
- - Oasis   I'm saying it was NOT A PUNISHABLE OFFENSE. I...   Aug 9 2007, 04:13 PM
- - impala454   I know why they looked the other way, but IMO it s...   Aug 9 2007, 07:24 PM
- - Epic   honestly, there were plenty of ways for Ruth to c...   Aug 9 2007, 08:11 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Epic @ Aug 9 2007, 09:11 PM) i thi...   Aug 10 2007, 08:28 AM
- - jwttu   i just think bonds is an ass, he never seems happy   Aug 10 2007, 11:16 AM
- - impala454   yeah that little tantrum he threw after being 0-30...   Aug 10 2007, 11:37 AM
- - impala454   LOLOLOL bond's 756 ball gets an asterisk prin...   Sep 26 2007, 11:45 AM
- - cmac   and they're still happy to be receiving it. s...   Sep 26 2007, 01:29 PM
- - THECHICKEN   Yeah, how dare he do something in the past that wa...   Sep 26 2007, 01:41 PM
- - impala454   oh boo hoo ya buncha crybabies. if they didnt thi...   Sep 26 2007, 03:03 PM
- - Epic   it really seems that everyone who is upset with bo...   Sep 26 2007, 03:10 PM
- - impala454   so if he was convicted of using steroids, was it s...   Sep 26 2007, 03:13 PM
- - Epic   part of it will always be that. steroids, if he u...   Sep 26 2007, 04:35 PM
- - impala454   no way. its sad to me that some people can't ...   Sep 26 2007, 04:57 PM
- - Epic   i just think its funny that people will make a com...   Sep 26 2007, 06:26 PM
- - Oasis   The entire thing is a farce. And you know, the Ho...   Sep 26 2007, 06:29 PM
- - impala454   ok but being racist or doing coke doesn't help...   Sep 26 2007, 09:41 PM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (Oasis @ Sep 27 2007, 02:17 PM) Rac...   Sep 27 2007, 02:02 PM
- - cmac   regardless of if he used steroids or not, he still...   Sep 27 2007, 08:01 AM
- - moebary   the armor just makes him a pussy   Sep 27 2007, 09:06 AM
- - impala454   your batting average will go up when you hit balls...   Sep 27 2007, 09:06 AM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 27 2007, 10:06 AM)...   Sep 27 2007, 01:19 PM
- - cmac   hitting an 80mph ball is no easy feat either. an...   Sep 27 2007, 09:21 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 10:21 AM) hitt...   Sep 27 2007, 10:15 AM
- - cmac   in the 80s and early 90s it wasn't popular to ...   Sep 27 2007, 10:27 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 AM) in t...   Sep 27 2007, 12:09 PM
- - cmac   i meant 5 or so a season. and like i said i don...   Sep 27 2007, 01:11 PM
- - Oasis   I'm mainly talking about competitive advantage...   Sep 27 2007, 02:24 PM
- - impala454   ah.. well yeah no doubt old records would get shat...   Sep 27 2007, 02:36 PM


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