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post Sep 1 2007, 07:58 PM
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Craig's resigning

My favorite part of the article is this last part:

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Craig also was an opponent of expanding the rights of gay Americans, a stance that drew charges of hypocrisy from gay rights advocates after his arrest became public. He has supported a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage and opposed extending a federal hate-crime law to cover violent acts based on a victim's sexual orientation.


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post Sep 2 2007, 08:28 PM
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i wouldn't call it a political double standard. I would place that one in the "better press team/spin doctors" category.

It's all about how fast you can spin, and in what direction.


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post Sep 4 2007, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (zetec @ Sep 2 2007, 09:28 PM) *
i wouldn't call it a political double standard. I would place that one in the "better press team/spin doctors" category.

It's all about how fast you can spin, and in what direction.


I disagree...I think it is a double-standard....they're saying...."it's ok to have extramarital affairs and solicit prostitutes, but being gay is NOT allowed" I think if Craig had to resign for this, then Vitter should also be forced to resign for his little scandal.
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post Sep 6 2007, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 4 2007, 02:32 PM) *
I disagree...I think it is a double-standard....they're saying...."it's ok to have extramarital affairs and solicit prostitutes, but being gay is NOT allowed" I think if Craig had to resign for this, then Vitter should also be forced to resign for his little scandal.

extramarital affairs cant really be equated with sexually harrassing unsuspecting males in public restrooms. so, no, its not a double standard.
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post Sep 6 2007, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 6 2007, 01:18 AM) *
extramarital affairs cant really be equated with sexually harrassing unsuspecting males in public restrooms. so, no, its not a double standard.


If sexually harassing means attempting to engage in a totally consensual act, ok. The only reason it was illegal was that Craig theoretically wanted to have sex in a public restroom.


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post Sep 6 2007, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 6 2007, 12:05 PM) *
If sexually harassing means attempting to engage in a totally consensual act, ok. The only reason it was illegal was that Craig theoretically wanted to have sex in a public restroom.

yeah but wanting to have sex is not illegal. that's where i don't get this stuff. or the 20/20 predator BS, or anything where they arrest the person on perceived intentions.
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post Sep 6 2007, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 6 2007, 02:05 PM) *
yeah but wanting to have sex is not illegal. that's where i don't get this stuff. or the 20/20 predator BS, or anything where they arrest the person on perceived intentions.


I dont mean to sound like a gay advocate, but what these police bathroom stings are is an attack on the "gay community" although most of the men who cruise for sex in bathrooms do not identify as gay (Craig is aperfect example).

This shit is happening all over....police are even going on Craigslist and other websites and trying to bust people for prostitution without an exchange of money occurring. Just like in this situation, theyre making the arrest BEFORE the act happens.

Hell, it's an attack on SEX in general. This country is insane about curbing sexual activity of any type. Thanks to our religious right-wing zealot friends, sex is EVILLLL!!
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post Sep 6 2007, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 6 2007, 02:11 PM) *
I dont mean to sound like a gay advocate, but what these police bathroom stings are is an attack on the "gay community" although most of the men who cruise for sex in bathrooms do not identify as gay (Craig is aperfect example).

This shit is happening all over....police are even going on Craigslist and other websites and trying to bust people for prostitution without an exchange of money occurring. Just like in this situation, theyre making the arrest BEFORE the act happens.

Hell, it's an attack on SEX in general. This country is insane about curbing sexual activity of any type. Thanks to our religious right-wing zealot friends, sex is EVILLLL!!

I could care less if they're busting this behavior in bathrooms. I don't care if it's gay or straight, I don't want two people having any kind of sex while I'm in a public bathroom. Go have sex in a motel or at someone's house, bet you won't get caught there.


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post Sep 6 2007, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Sep 6 2007, 04:07 PM) *
I could care less if they're busting this behavior in bathrooms. I don't care if it's gay or straight, I don't want two people having any kind of sex while I'm in a public bathroom. Go have sex in a motel or at someone's house, bet you won't get caught there.



Well, for some (the closeted ones) its one of the few places they can find sex. And for the gays, it's mostly in the thrill of anonymous sex.

But i agree that public sex is a nuissance.
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post Sep 18 2007, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 6 2007, 04:17 PM) *
And for the gays, it's mostly in the thrill of anonymous sex.

and superaids?


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- pebkac   Sen Craig   Sep 1 2007, 07:58 PM
- - psidancer   That karma will get get you every time.   Sep 1 2007, 08:29 PM
- - pebkac   http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/WireSto...1012...   Sep 2 2007, 08:16 PM
- - zetec   i wouldn't call it a political double standard...   Sep 2 2007, 08:28 PM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (zetec @ Sep 2 2007, 09:28 PM) i wo...   Sep 4 2007, 01:32 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 4 2007, 02...   Sep 6 2007, 12:18 AM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 6 2007, 01:18 AM) ex...   Sep 6 2007, 11:05 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 6 2007, 12:05 PM) If ...   Sep 6 2007, 01:05 PM
|||- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 6 2007, 02:05 PM) ...   Sep 6 2007, 01:11 PM
|||- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 6 2007, 02...   Sep 6 2007, 03:07 PM
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|||- - dauss   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 6 2007, 04...   Sep 18 2007, 08:57 PM
||- - Jessica   QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 6 2007, 12:05 PM) If ...   Sep 7 2007, 11:40 AM
||- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 7 2007, 12:40 PM) he...   Sep 8 2007, 03:02 PM
||- - Jessica   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 8 2007, 04...   Sep 8 2007, 03:08 PM
||- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 8 2007, 04:08 PM) Co...   Sep 8 2007, 10:20 PM
||- - Jessica   QUOTE (TTUAthleticTrainer @ Sep 8 2007, 11...   Sep 9 2007, 12:19 PM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 6 2007, 01:18 AM) ex...   Sep 6 2007, 12:47 PM
- - blaarg   seriously, how many Craig threads are we going to ...   Sep 2 2007, 11:33 PM
- - chook   Wonder If I'll see any on my next company trip...   Sep 2 2007, 11:52 PM
- - Spectatrix   Craig reconsiders resignation, Republicans cry ...   Sep 5 2007, 08:40 AM
- - impala454   gah i wish he'd just either resign or not resi...   Sep 5 2007, 09:01 AM
- - pebkac   Agreed. It's really just hurting his case. T...   Sep 5 2007, 11:09 AM
- - TTUAthleticTrainer   God, he's like herpes! The gift that keep...   Sep 5 2007, 03:22 PM
- - Jessica   Here is an excerpt from an Austin American Statesm...   Sep 6 2007, 12:24 AM
- - impala454   well i dunno about all that, i just wonder how the...   Sep 6 2007, 01:46 PM
|- - TTUAthleticTrainer   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 6 2007, 02:46 PM) ...   Sep 6 2007, 02:00 PM
|- - pebkac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 6 2007, 02:46 PM) ...   Sep 6 2007, 02:02 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 6 2007, 02:46 PM) ...   Sep 7 2007, 11:42 AM
- - impala454   well i heard some more info on this this morning.....   Sep 7 2007, 12:18 PM
- - Jessica   they only did that after several people complained...   Sep 7 2007, 04:27 PM
- - Epic   and a big part of the gay lifestyle is reaching a ...   Sep 9 2007, 09:58 AM
- - Spectatrix   I'm surprised nobody mentioned this yet... Sen...   Oct 5 2007, 08:09 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 5 2007, 09:09 AM)...   Oct 5 2007, 08:28 AM
- - Spectatrix   Whether he's guilty or not, I'm just tired...   Oct 5 2007, 09:13 AM
- - pebkac   Agreed.   Oct 5 2007, 11:13 AM


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