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jonathan83
post Sep 18 2007, 07:22 AM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE&...ted&search=

This is messed up. This guy is screaming for help and he gets tasered just for asking questions to Sen. Kerry. This is appalling. You can hear several girls asking the police to stop because he's being tortured by that damn taser. What the hell...


More video after he's led outside: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1

Articles:
http://www.local10.com/news/14138122/detai...ia&psp=news
http://www.local6.com/news/14138039/detail.html
http://www.gainesvillesun.com/article/2007...80325/1007/NEWS



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cmac
post Sep 18 2007, 01:37 PM
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ok i watched it again and this is what i see.
when he says secret society the mic goes off and the police grab him. (no justification)
he raises his hands in the air and asks what they're doing. (no force from him)
the big cop picks him up and carries him towards the door. (not justified)
big cop throws guy to ground.
continues to ask what he's done and why this is happening. asks for help.
says "when you get off of me i'll leave"

at this point they should have got off of him and let him walk out the door.


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post Sep 18 2007, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 02:37 PM) *
ok i watched it again and this is what i see.
when he says secret society the mic goes off and the police grab him. (no justification)
he raises his hands in the air and asks what they're doing. (no force from him)
the big cop picks him up and carries him towards the door. (not justified)
big cop throws guy to ground.
continues to ask what he's done and why this is happening. asks for help.
says "when you get off of me i'll leave"

at this point they should have got off of him and let him walk out the door.


So you didn't read the first hand account eh?

Before they cut the mic off (which is pretty much where the video starts), he had been asked, then told multiple times to let the original person speak. Kerry was kind enough to answer the first person's question, then was going to answer this guy's question, then he just rambled on about the secret society, (where the video starts), then he gets escorted out.

The police grab him, start escorting him out, he raises his hands, which is technically resisting as he was trying to forcibly remove the police from his arms.

You want justification but in this case the cops were doing what they were asked (according to the first hand accounts) by simply escorting him out. I've seen people escorted out of places before by police and it's no big deal until you start mouthing off and trying to get the cops hands off of you.

He wasn't going to walk out the door. He ran down the aisle (again, first hand accounts) to get to the mic when he realized that not everyone's questions were going to get asked because of time constraints. He took the mic from someone (not justified, to use your words).


Can you honestly tell me that you stick up for this guy simply because you think he was wronged? When are we going to stop making exceptions for people and just face the fact that if you can't be civil, why should others act in a civil way toward you. Gone are the days of respect. It's all about questioning authority and attempting to stand up against it.

You know, the more my girlfriend and I talk about having kids at some point, the more I think about how I'd raise them. What I do in moderation they will imitate in excess. If I am disrespectful to a cop or a teacher, they are sure to do it 10x more. The less we respect each other, the worse it will get.

All this guy in the video had to do was accept the fact that his question wasn't going to get answered and go on with life. Instead he had to run down and try to get it answered, which is self-importance to the utmost.


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- jonathan83   UF Student arrested, tasered   Sep 18 2007, 07:22 AM
- - Fedor   What was he expecting to happen? The police carry ...   Sep 18 2007, 07:43 AM
- - cmac   the guy seems ultral liberal. i'm surprised th...   Sep 18 2007, 07:54 AM
- - 1up   Tasering someone is not normal procedure unless a ...   Sep 18 2007, 08:03 AM
- - 1up   http://onemansblog.com/2007/09/17/the-tase...you-a...   Sep 18 2007, 08:16 AM
- - impala454   the guy refused to leave, and then fought with the...   Sep 18 2007, 08:34 AM
|- - 1up   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 09:34 AM)...   Sep 18 2007, 08:51 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (1up @ Sep 18 2007, 09:51 AM) Where...   Sep 18 2007, 08:56 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 09:56 AM)...   Sep 18 2007, 09:46 AM
|- - impala454   damn i missed a whole page just bc the power went ...   Sep 18 2007, 01:52 PM
- - cmac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 08:34 AM)...   Sep 18 2007, 08:36 AM
- - Hartmann   He did resist, though I am not sure the taser shou...   Sep 18 2007, 09:32 AM
- - moebary   he resisted arrest, especially when he got close t...   Sep 18 2007, 09:40 AM
- - impala454   i thought it was funny how he really believes all ...   Sep 18 2007, 09:41 AM
- - moebary   when he was near the door he tried to get out of t...   Sep 18 2007, 09:50 AM
- - cupcake   what a dildo. he was disturbing the peace and resi...   Sep 18 2007, 09:53 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 09:32 AM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 09:54 AM
- - THECHICKEN   They cut his micriphone (why im not sure... kerry ...   Sep 18 2007, 09:56 AM
- - cupcake   QUOTE So when they really start to arrest him (whi...   Sep 18 2007, 10:03 AM
- - jonathan83   on the second video he keeps asking again "wh...   Sep 18 2007, 10:17 AM
- - jonathan83   one more thing... the police did not inform him th...   Sep 18 2007, 10:25 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 11:25 AM...   Sep 18 2007, 10:28 AM
- - Epic   QUOTE (cupcake @ Sep 18 2007, 10:53 AM) I...   Sep 18 2007, 10:25 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (Epic @ Sep 18 2007, 11:25 AM) i...   Sep 18 2007, 10:32 AM
- - Dr. Gonzo   A good tasering builds character!!!   Sep 18 2007, 10:34 AM
- - moebary   haha, I just watched the second video and this guy...   Sep 18 2007, 10:35 AM
- - Epic   i've been to enough speaking engagements featu...   Sep 18 2007, 10:46 AM
- - cupcake   they shoulda kicked his ass seabass then gone for ...   Sep 18 2007, 10:52 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cupcake @ Sep 18 2007, 11:52 AM) t...   Sep 18 2007, 11:03 AM
- - cmac   i fail to see how he was a disturbance. kerry was ...   Sep 18 2007, 11:05 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 12:05 PM) i fa...   Sep 18 2007, 11:10 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 12:10 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 11:32 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 12:32 PM...   Sep 18 2007, 11:44 AM
|- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 11:44 AM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 11:54 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 12:54 PM) WHAT...   Sep 18 2007, 12:04 PM
- - cupcake   that john denver is full of shit man...   Sep 18 2007, 11:08 AM
- - cupcake   people tend to get mired down in the minutia of ci...   Sep 18 2007, 11:18 AM
|- - Fedor   QUOTE (cupcake @ Sep 18 2007, 12:18 PM) p...   Sep 18 2007, 12:19 PM
- - Oasis   To figure out who's at fault look no further t...   Sep 18 2007, 11:38 AM
- - Inferia   I don't know if he deserved it, but that was k...   Sep 18 2007, 11:54 AM
- - cmac   so the next time i help a child on the side of the...   Sep 18 2007, 12:16 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 01:16 PM) so t...   Sep 18 2007, 12:17 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 01:16 PM) so t...   Sep 18 2007, 12:23 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 12:16 PM) so t...   Sep 18 2007, 12:24 PM
- - cupcake   cmac...serious question here... if you felt you w...   Sep 18 2007, 12:26 PM
- - Hartmann   I think it's interesting that the people who t...   Sep 18 2007, 12:38 PM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 01:38 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 12:44 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 01:44 PM...   Sep 18 2007, 01:04 PM
||- - jonathan83   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 02:04 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:08 PM
|- - Testm0nkey   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 01:44 PM...   Sep 18 2007, 01:05 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Sep 18 2007, 01:05 PM...   Sep 18 2007, 01:08 PM
- - cmac   if i knew. yes. cause i could sue later   Sep 18 2007, 12:43 PM
- - cupcake   go quietly. I was an ultra rebellious skate punk ...   Sep 18 2007, 12:57 PM
- - cupcake   an example of going along with it when you are in ...   Sep 18 2007, 01:08 PM
- - cmac   no confrontation was needed then. it looks as if...   Sep 18 2007, 01:15 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 02:15 PM) no c...   Sep 18 2007, 01:17 PM
|- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 01:17 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 01:19 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 02:19 PM) exac...   Sep 18 2007, 01:23 PM
- - cmac   an automatic weapon held in my face changes a few ...   Sep 18 2007, 01:18 PM
- - Inferia   I was just talking to my friend about the event. ...   Sep 18 2007, 01:23 PM
|- - cmac   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 18 2007, 01:23 PM) I...   Sep 18 2007, 01:25 PM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 02:25 PM) i th...   Sep 18 2007, 01:28 PM
- - 1up   I think someone should track down the bulldykes th...   Sep 18 2007, 01:25 PM
- - cupcake   what? I'm pretty sure cops get tazered as part...   Sep 18 2007, 01:26 PM
- - cmac   ok i watched it again and this is what i see. wh...   Sep 18 2007, 01:37 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 02:37 PM) ok i...   Sep 18 2007, 01:50 PM
- - impala454   hah hartman what'd you get arrested for?   Sep 18 2007, 02:02 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 03:02 PM)...   Sep 18 2007, 02:04 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 03:04 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:05 PM
- - impala454   lol they played it some more, wow this guy sounds ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:04 PM
- - cmac   i read it. him being a jackass before during or a...   Sep 18 2007, 02:04 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 03:04 PM) i re...   Sep 18 2007, 02:13 PM
- - impala454   the sean hannity radio show is about to have one o...   Sep 18 2007, 02:08 PM
- - impala454   dude once you're getting arrested, there's...   Sep 18 2007, 02:09 PM
- - jonathan83   CNN said they're going to have the actual dude...   Sep 18 2007, 02:10 PM
- - impala454   you can listen to this radio show right now, they...   Sep 18 2007, 02:12 PM
- - cmac   i fail to see resisting arrest being charged at an...   Sep 18 2007, 02:13 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 03:13 PM) i fa...   Sep 18 2007, 02:14 PM
- - jonathan83   Seems like Hannity is for the dude. He's talki...   Sep 18 2007, 02:18 PM
- - impala454   well you missed the rest of his talk about it   Sep 18 2007, 02:20 PM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 02:13 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:21 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 03:21 PM) yes ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:22 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 03:21 PM) he w...   Sep 18 2007, 02:28 PM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 02:14 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:22 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 03:22 PM) i th...   Sep 18 2007, 02:24 PM
|- - Oasis   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 03:24 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:27 PM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (Oasis @ Sep 18 2007, 03:27 PM) The...   Sep 18 2007, 02:29 PM
- - jonathan83   is it over?   Sep 18 2007, 02:24 PM
- - cmac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 02:22 PM)...   Sep 18 2007, 02:25 PM
- - cmac   i don't care what the law is. if the law say...   Sep 18 2007, 02:27 PM
- - cupcake   if that kid wasn't resisting the cops, I'l...   Sep 18 2007, 02:29 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ Sep 18 2007, 03:29 PM) i...   Sep 18 2007, 02:32 PM
- - Fedor   How did he not resist? After the dude had to pract...   Sep 18 2007, 02:31 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   yea. i bonded out a guy yesterday for "assaul...   Sep 18 2007, 02:33 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Sep 18 2007, 03:33 ...   Sep 18 2007, 02:34 PM
- - Inferia   and usually in this type of a situation, you'r...   Sep 18 2007, 02:33 PM
- - Hartmann   Also, from the video you posted cmac, you can...   Sep 18 2007, 02:35 PM
- - cupcake   the fact is...that I think some are overlooking......   Sep 18 2007, 02:35 PM
- - cmac   even if he was told to ask the question and leave,...   Sep 18 2007, 02:36 PM
- - Hartmann   In the video that cmac posted: http://www.youtube....   Sep 18 2007, 02:36 PM
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