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jonathan83
post Sep 18 2007, 07:22 AM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE&...ted&search=

This is messed up. This guy is screaming for help and he gets tasered just for asking questions to Sen. Kerry. This is appalling. You can hear several girls asking the police to stop because he's being tortured by that damn taser. What the hell...


More video after he's led outside: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1

Articles:
http://www.local10.com/news/14138122/detai...ia&psp=news
http://www.local6.com/news/14138039/detail.html
http://www.gainesvillesun.com/article/2007...80325/1007/NEWS



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cmac
post Sep 18 2007, 11:05 AM
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i fail to see how he was a disturbance.
kerry was about to answer his question.

so he asked slightly heated questions...
and his microphone gets turned off as soon as he mentioned secret societies.


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post Sep 18 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 12:05 PM) *
i fail to see how he was a disturbance.
kerry was about to answer his question.

so he asked slightly heated questions...
and his microphone gets turned off as soon as he mentioned secret societies.


If you read it was stated that he had already asked multiple questions and was asked to not continue. He refused and continued to ask.

His mic was shut off and he still continued. The police then were escorting him out and he tried to resist being escorted out. He wasn't placed in cuffs until he resisted.

Have any of you actually been arrested? I have. They do not read you your rights until you are actually placed under arrest. They can put cuffs on you while they try to sort a situation out, I've seen this done multiple times and a few of those they actually let the person go. They just know situations are volatile and that keeping cuffs on someone is an easy way to control it.

Focus on the entire picture and it becomes more clear. Focus too much on a single point and the waters get murky.


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post Sep 18 2007, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 12:10 PM) *
If you read it was stated that he had already asked multiple questions and was asked to not continue. He refused and continued to ask.

His mic was shut off and he still continued. The police then were escorting him out and he tried to resist being escorted out. He wasn't placed in cuffs until he resisted.

At the end he was finished and Kerry even said "i'll answer his question" or something.
You can hear the guy saying something to the effect of "leave me alone I just want to hear him answer"
he was finished, he just wanted to listen to Kerry's answers and they wouldnt even let him.

QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 11:17 AM) *
on the second video he keeps asking again "why are you arresting me? i didnt do anything wrong" and finally one of the cops say "for inciting a riot"

how the hell was he inciting a riot? he was asking a question.

also wanna bump this


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post Sep 18 2007, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 12:32 PM) *
At the end he was finished and Kerry even said "i'll answer his question" or something.
You can hear the guy saying something to the effect of "leave me alone I just want to hear him answer"
he was finished, he just wanted to listen to Kerry's answers and they wouldnt even let him.
also wanna bump this


Again, I don't care if Kerry said he'd answer it. This guy could sit down and listen to the answer. He was asked to sit down and not ask any other questions, he continued to. What kind of things are we teaching our kids if it is ok to disobey and continue to do something when told not to?

Also, even though IAKAL, the inciting a riot charge would probably stick as he resisted arrest and yelled "help me!" which is comparable to "fire" in a crowded theater.


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post Sep 18 2007, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 11:44 AM) *
yelled "help me!" which is comparable to "fire" in a crowded theater.


WHAT!??!?
no. there is no comparison.


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- jonathan83   UF Student arrested, tasered   Sep 18 2007, 07:22 AM
- - Fedor   What was he expecting to happen? The police carry ...   Sep 18 2007, 07:43 AM
- - cmac   the guy seems ultral liberal. i'm surprised th...   Sep 18 2007, 07:54 AM
- - 1up   Tasering someone is not normal procedure unless a ...   Sep 18 2007, 08:03 AM
- - 1up   http://onemansblog.com/2007/09/17/the-tase...you-a...   Sep 18 2007, 08:16 AM
- - impala454   the guy refused to leave, and then fought with the...   Sep 18 2007, 08:34 AM
|- - 1up   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 09:34 AM)...   Sep 18 2007, 08:51 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (1up @ Sep 18 2007, 09:51 AM) Where...   Sep 18 2007, 08:56 AM
|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 09:56 AM)...   Sep 18 2007, 09:46 AM
|- - impala454   damn i missed a whole page just bc the power went ...   Sep 18 2007, 01:52 PM
- - cmac   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2007, 08:34 AM)...   Sep 18 2007, 08:36 AM
- - Hartmann   He did resist, though I am not sure the taser shou...   Sep 18 2007, 09:32 AM
- - moebary   he resisted arrest, especially when he got close t...   Sep 18 2007, 09:40 AM
- - impala454   i thought it was funny how he really believes all ...   Sep 18 2007, 09:41 AM
- - moebary   when he was near the door he tried to get out of t...   Sep 18 2007, 09:50 AM
- - cupcake   what a dildo. he was disturbing the peace and resi...   Sep 18 2007, 09:53 AM
- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 09:32 AM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 09:54 AM
- - THECHICKEN   They cut his micriphone (why im not sure... kerry ...   Sep 18 2007, 09:56 AM
- - cupcake   QUOTE So when they really start to arrest him (whi...   Sep 18 2007, 10:03 AM
- - jonathan83   on the second video he keeps asking again "wh...   Sep 18 2007, 10:17 AM
- - jonathan83   one more thing... the police did not inform him th...   Sep 18 2007, 10:25 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 11:25 AM...   Sep 18 2007, 10:28 AM
- - Epic   QUOTE (cupcake @ Sep 18 2007, 10:53 AM) I...   Sep 18 2007, 10:25 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (Epic @ Sep 18 2007, 11:25 AM) i...   Sep 18 2007, 10:32 AM
- - Dr. Gonzo   A good tasering builds character!!!   Sep 18 2007, 10:34 AM
- - moebary   haha, I just watched the second video and this guy...   Sep 18 2007, 10:35 AM
- - Epic   i've been to enough speaking engagements featu...   Sep 18 2007, 10:46 AM
- - cupcake   they shoulda kicked his ass seabass then gone for ...   Sep 18 2007, 10:52 AM
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|- - jonathan83   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 12:10 PM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 11:32 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (jonathan83 @ Sep 18 2007, 12:32 PM...   Sep 18 2007, 11:44 AM
|- - cmac   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 18 2007, 11:44 AM) ...   Sep 18 2007, 11:54 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 12:54 PM) WHAT...   Sep 18 2007, 12:04 PM
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|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 01:16 PM) so t...   Sep 18 2007, 12:23 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (cmac @ Sep 18 2007, 12:16 PM) so t...   Sep 18 2007, 12:24 PM
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