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kcroxyoursox
post Sep 3 2007, 07:05 PM
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I know a lot of you are from the DFW area, so I figured this might generate some interest. Basically, Southlake is the modern-day Pleasantville, where our kids are smarter AND better looking. Read on.

http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/Audiences/dir...642EC371FE6E70B


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impala454
post Sep 5 2007, 06:12 PM
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you can call it stereotyping, racism, whatever, but the facts don't lie.
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post Sep 5 2007, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2007, 06:12 PM) *
you can call it stereotyping, racism, whatever, but the facts don't lie.

Right, the facts don't lie. But what facts are these? That minorities commit more crime than white people? Then are you saying that minorities are inherently bad while white people are inherently good? If not then, what has society done to make it so as that these facts are true? And what can we do so that these facts don't have to be true since assuming that one race is not inherently better than another? I think these facts can be altered. And essentially that's what diversification does for people. If you bring someone out of their normal environment and into a completely different environment, that person will adjust to fit into the new environment. If people are kept clustered so as that they stay close to the same people, it would be very difficult to such trend that we see now. And that is many of the problems with segregated communities because people are separated by social economic backgrounds. If we assume that the whites are wealthier than the minorities, and if we assume that the less wealthy receives less education, and the less educated commit more violent crimes, it is easy to see why minorities commit more crimes in this situation. If we redistrubute the minorities, we can have a more "harmonious" society. Or at least not a society where one race is perceived to be a certain way. I'm not saying taking them out of their homes and place them randomly in white communities, I am saying to restructure cities so that there isn't a large disparity between parts of the town. Then again, capitalism doesn't quite work this way, but if you think about, if you created this environment, then why are you bitching?

I'm not sure what all the complaints with the number of Mexicans in Texas is all about. I live by Detroit, which I think is the most dangerous cities in US, and there aren't that many Mexicans. And if we went for the other not-quite-model-citizen minorities, we probably come up with black people. Then what do you propose we do in this situation, they didn't exactly cross the border unwanted? More bars and more guards? Send them back to Africa? Just shoot them all?


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post Sep 5 2007, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
Right, the facts don't lie. But what facts are these? That minorities commit more crime than white people?

yes

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
Then are you saying that minorities are inherently bad while white people are inherently good?

no, it's exactly what it says, that minorities commit more crimes. but it's not just that aspect, it's poor, uneducated, unemployed, kids raised by parents that don't care, etc, as well.

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
If not then, what has society done to make it so as that these facts are true?

absolutely nothing. society doesn't force people to shoot people and take their wallets. society doesn't force people to use drugs or form gangs. society doesn't force people to rape.

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
And what can we do so that these facts don't have to be true since assuming that one race is not inherently better than another?

"we" (i assume you're referring to that terrible evil person named Society again) can't do anything. would you be happier if the crime stats were diversified?

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
I think these facts can be altered. And essentially that's what diversification does for people. If you bring someone out of their normal environment and into a completely different environment, that person will adjust to fit into the new environment. If people are kept clustered so as that they stay close to the same people, it would be very difficult to such trend that we see now. And that is many of the problems with segregated communities because people are separated by social economic backgrounds.

segregated communities?!? where? people can live anywhere they want to. does it surprise you that people like to live with others who are simliar? why is san fransisco so gay? why dont we disperse them since they're apparently 'segregated'? what would be the point?

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
If we assume that the whites are wealthier than the minorities, and if we assume that the less wealthy receives less education, and the less educated commit more violent crimes, it is easy to see why minorities commit more crimes in this situation. If we redistrubute the minorities, we can have a more "harmonious" society. Or at least not a society where one race is perceived to be a certain way.

Diversification is a synonym for Communism IMHO. Sure, it brings the bottom up, but what people fail to remember is that it brings the top down. Is it only by race? or by income too? Do we take rich black people and make them live in the trailer park? Do rich white people have to go live in the 'hood? Or is it only the rich white people (oh wait that'd be racist my bad). Diversity doesn't promote equality. Minorities don't want true equality. They want it only when it benefits them *cough* affirmative action *cough*

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
I'm not saying taking them out of their homes and place them randomly in white communities, I am saying to restructure cities so that there isn't a large disparity between parts of the town.

so how exactly do you go about doing this?

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
Then again, capitalism doesn't quite work this way,

exactly. capitalism means that everyone has the opportunity to be rich or poor. it's up to them. the white kid that's born super rich has just as much opportunity to end up homeless as the poor black kid has to end up super rich. don't confuse the likelyhood of these happening with the opportunity.

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
but if you think about, if you created this environment,

People are responsible for their own lives, not society. We see all too often nowadays people who go out and commit a crime and then blame everyone else for driving them to commit it.

QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) *
then why are you bitching?

I'm 'bitching' because of the idiots that jump to call anyone and everyone racist, and don't think about things objectively.
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- kcroxyoursox   Southlake = Pleasantville   Sep 3 2007, 07:05 PM
- - Testm0nkey   sounds like every master planned community on the ...   Sep 3 2007, 07:12 PM
- - Junsui   Interesting. Eventually it will turn into a shitho...   Sep 3 2007, 07:55 PM
- - lamont's lament   this weekend wasn't very pleasant for todd dod...   Sep 3 2007, 07:58 PM
- - Hartmann   I lived near Southlake... I used to go to their to...   Sep 3 2007, 09:19 PM
- - dauss   That's where I went to high school. The footb...   Sep 3 2007, 09:21 PM
- - chook   Yep, only in Texas where it education and what you...   Sep 3 2007, 10:51 PM
- - impala454   not really... there are very few 'elite' f...   Sep 3 2007, 11:28 PM
- - Oasis   Is that where Todd Dodge coached?   Sep 4 2007, 12:02 AM
|- - jwttu   QUOTE (Oasis @ Sep 4 2007, 01:02 AM) Is t...   Sep 4 2007, 06:09 AM
- - 1up   just wait till all the messicans move into town   Sep 4 2007, 09:26 AM
|- - Hartmann   QUOTE (1up @ Sep 4 2007, 10:26 AM) just w...   Sep 4 2007, 10:56 AM
|- - 1up   QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 4 2007, 11:56 AM) N...   Sep 4 2007, 12:29 PM
- - dauss   In my graduating class of 400+, I think there was ...   Sep 5 2007, 05:41 AM
- - Testm0nkey   ah so the community plan is to leave the crime in ...   Sep 5 2007, 06:23 AM
- - impala454   i'd rather have white kid crime than real crim...   Sep 5 2007, 07:08 AM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2007, 07:08 AM) ...   Sep 5 2007, 12:26 PM
- - Testm0nkey   no you get problems that inevitably happen in comm...   Sep 5 2007, 12:29 PM
- - impala454   i'm afraid i don't see the correlation. s...   Sep 5 2007, 12:34 PM
- - Testm0nkey   no im saying it seems every Pleasantville like Sub...   Sep 5 2007, 12:37 PM
- - impala454   so southlake looks like an inner city flop house?   Sep 5 2007, 01:20 PM
- - 1up   cathryn = crazy   Sep 5 2007, 01:30 PM
- - Inferia   Well the way I see is that, when there's a dis...   Sep 5 2007, 03:01 PM
- - Testm0nkey   goddamn impala. it doesnt LOOK like one to your e...   Sep 5 2007, 04:13 PM
|- - dauss   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Sep 5 2007, 04:13 PM)...   Sep 5 2007, 04:23 PM
|- - chook   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Sep 5 2007, 04:13 PM)...   Sep 7 2007, 11:08 PM
- - jonathan83   There's also a big difference between Southlak...   Sep 5 2007, 04:28 PM
- - 1up   Plano is split between East Plano and West Plano. ...   Sep 5 2007, 05:00 PM
|- - dauss   QUOTE (1up @ Sep 5 2007, 05:00 PM) White ...   Sep 5 2007, 05:21 PM
- - 1up   It's true, everyone knows White folks do drugs...   Sep 5 2007, 05:44 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   here's something i want to fingure out.... w...   Sep 5 2007, 06:09 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Sep 5 2007, 07:09 P...   Sep 5 2007, 06:53 PM
- - impala454   bingo. (at lance)   Sep 5 2007, 06:11 PM
- - impala454   you can call it stereotyping, racism, whatever, bu...   Sep 5 2007, 06:12 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2007, 07:12 PM) ...   Sep 5 2007, 06:54 PM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 5 2007, 07:54 PM) ...   Sep 5 2007, 08:13 PM
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||- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 5 2007, 11:32 PM) ...   Sep 5 2007, 10:47 PM
|- - Inferia   QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 5 2007, 06:12 PM) ...   Sep 5 2007, 09:04 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 PM) Ri...   Sep 5 2007, 10:29 PM
- - lamont's lament   forced integration/acceptance is not the answer. ...   Sep 5 2007, 09:35 PM
- - Inferia   No, society doesn't force people to do anythin...   Sep 6 2007, 08:01 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Inferia @ Sep 6 2007, 09:01 AM) No...   Sep 6 2007, 11:21 AM
- - Oasis   I absolutely hate agreeing with Chuck, but he...   Sep 6 2007, 11:57 AM
|- - Jim   QUOTE (Oasis @ Sep 6 2007, 11:57 AM) I ab...   Sep 6 2007, 12:02 PM
|- - Fedor   QUOTE (Oasis @ Sep 6 2007, 12:57 PM) I ab...   Sep 6 2007, 12:16 PM
- - Oasis   Then again, you don't see Mexicans going on mu...   Sep 6 2007, 12:06 PM
- - chook   Chuck, you should be writing software and not on a...   Sep 7 2007, 11:12 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (chook @ Sep 8 2007, 12:12 AM) Chuc...   Sep 7 2007, 11:31 PM
- - Melanie   *shrugs* I like Southlake. I have a friend that w...   Sep 14 2007, 01:53 PM
- - 2wolUTT   Them fuckos lost tonight. Like 32K attendance.   Sep 16 2007, 12:21 AM
- - Oasis   SLC lost? GOD DAMMIT   Sep 16 2007, 12:28 AM
- - 2wolUTT   RE: Southlake = Pleasantville   Sep 16 2007, 12:34 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (2wolUTT @ Sep 16 2007, 01:34 AM) ...   Sep 16 2007, 10:16 AM
- - jonathan83   i watched the game, it was on ESPNU. 29-21, pretty...   Sep 16 2007, 01:52 AM


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