I want to murder these people. Options

[Dogmeat]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/...3207.shtml?s=ic

these people need to be eradicated from existance before they can populate the world further.

If they truly cared about "the environment" they would kill themselves.

They must die.

All of them.

Quickly. Quicker deaths for them will help SAVE the environment! MUHAHAHAHAHHA!!!

[Inferia]

no, but it is a representation of the beliefs of this country. It won't change what I believe in, but it is in the laws I abide by.

Look, I don't really like regulating stupid stuff in order to appear more environmentally conscience. i.e. plastic bags banning in San Fran. It's not about taking one less shower to save water, or walk one more mile to save gas, or using paper instead of plastic because paper supposedly pollutes less than plastic. But I do, however, believe that global climate change is happening, and we making our dent on this earth. I think there should be government regulations on the amount of pollutants we put into the atmosphere by making more efficient automobiles, factories, etc, but scientifically. Taking one less shower will not save the earth, bringing in canvas bags to grocery shop while driving there in a car will not save the earth.

Lets try this, the amount of energy it takes to make and recycle a plastic bag is much less than it would take to make and recycle a paper bag. So why the heck are plastic bags evil while paper is good? Plastic is a complicated matter, it is one more modern than a paper bag, which makes people thinks it means more pollution. In a sense that it is if you use the none recyclable type of plastic. But in reality, if we use a linear polymer such as PP or HDPE it is easily melted and can be reformed much readily than paper would. So why in the world is paper so good? Paper degrades much easier than plastic ever would if you were to just throw it away, but here's the catch, if we just throw it in the trash, it would never degrade anyway since the trash in this country are packed so tightly that the microorganisms that would do the biodegrading will not survive in the heat. So what is the answer to this problem? Assuming if everyone recycled, plastic is probably better in the sense that it is cheaper and more energy efficient to make than paper, and assuming if no one recycled, plastic is still "better" in the same sense. But then we get into the other slippery slope of the effect of plastic bag on other forms of the environment, as in natural habitats and stuff. If you throw away a paper bag in a forest it will degrade much faster than a plastic one (I think the numbers are 1 year to 1000 years), but what percentage of plastic bags are floating around in our forests? I'm not sure. And this will go for many of the other environment problems. There is no easy solution, but there are solutions where we can help improve the environment, which I don't think anyone can say they are against the environment.

And lets try another example, if we take plastic cups, paper cups, Styrofoam cups, and ceramic mugs, you'd think ceramic mugs would be the most environmentally conscience, considering they are reusable, probably can last you a lifetime or more. But realistically speaking, in this country, not many people use one mug in all of their lives. The energy that it takes to produce one mug is equal to close to hundreds of thousands of the other 3 types of cups. Then should we be careless about the number of plastic, paper, styrofoam cups we use? I'm not sure. Are these figures all correct? I can't remember, but my point being, what appears "wrong" doesn't mean it's actually wrong, and what appears to be "the right thing"may be more damaging than the "wrong thing". I don't believe we are using this earth effectively, energetically speaking and "environmentally" speaking. I do believe in numbers and figures, and I do believe in finding alternatives to current methods if they are more energy and enivornmentally effective, because it would be kinda idiotic to think that we're can't be any better than what we're doing right now.