hey lance, re: your sig Options

[jonathan83]

what's the one major city we lost? the only thing i can think of would be New Orleans, and i dont see how that was Bush's fault. Maybe the evacuation and support after the hurricane yes...but the actual hurricane? No. Help me out here.

[pysex]

impala i can't honestly tell if you're trying to be an asshole or if it comes naturally


there are ways that a president can pressure congress into taking action against raising oil prices...
i have no knowledge as to what the practices and procedures are for doing so....i can't give details...
but know for damn sure the president, if he's interested at all, can do something about it

i'm not blaming him or pointing fingers saying that Bush is the cause of it...i'm simply upset that he hasn't done anything or shown signs that he's concerned about it

i think the real culprit is the major conflict in the areas where we get most of our oil....the nations that are involved in OPEC

sure OPEC doesn't have much of a stranglehold on the oil market anymore but they still hold 2/3 of the world's oil and something like 50% of the world's oil production

Iraq, Indonesia, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Angola, Algeria, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Venezuela all make up OPEC....Now find countries out of that list that might have issues with our involvement in the Middle East (whether it's military, economical, political, whatever) and then explain how gas prices could possibly be affected by that.


call me libertarian then if you really have to label me

[impala454]

impala i can't honestly tell if you're trying to be an asshole or if it comes naturally

it comes naturally for me on these kinds of message boards I am somewhat of a devil's advocate in real life but much easier to get along with

there are ways that a president can pressure congress into taking action against raising oil prices...
i have no knowledge as to what the practices and procedures are for doing so....i can't give details...
but know for damn sure the president, if he's interested at all, can do something about it

so you don't know how, you just know for sure?

i'm not blaming him or pointing fingers saying that Bush is the cause of it...i'm simply upset that he hasn't done anything or shown signs that he's concerned about it

right, but what I was getting at was not necessarily Bush but the president's job in general. any president. you said you wanted a president that will help with gas prices, but then you also said you want a president who doesn't concentrate on foreign affairs. I'm saying is what you want is impossible. foreign affairs are key when you're talking about oil. just as you said here:

i think the real culprit is the major conflict in the areas where we get most of our oil....the nations that are involved in OPEC

sure OPEC doesn't have much of a stranglehold on the oil market anymore but they still hold 2/3 of the world's oil and something like 50% of the world's oil production

Iraq, Indonesia, Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Angola, Algeria, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Venezuela all make up OPEC....Now find countries out of that list that might have issues with our involvement in the Middle East (whether it's military, economical, political, whatever) and then explain how gas prices could possibly be affected by that.

all I'm sayin is give the man/woman/whoever/whatever is president a break. they can't make everything kumbaya, especially when half of those countries you listed are at war or have a mortal hatred of one another or us. it's not a simple thing to just walk over there and make everyone get along, while also pleasing everyone back home. "excuse me, can you put down that AK-47 a sec, I need to buy some of your oil. oh and by the way can you give me a better price than last time? people over here gotta take road trips during the summer yanno".

call me libertarian then if you really have to label me

heh ok

Actually, the traditional Libertarian stance on immigration is a policy of open borders, though it is an issue of significant controversy within the Libertarian community.

ah... i was just winging that but it seemed logical. bleh

[Spectatrix]

all I'm sayin is give the man/woman/whoever/whatever is president a break.

I won't give Bush much of a break because he's done too many shady/illegal things (yes, I am asserting that the NSA warrantless wiretapping program is illegal), but I do NOT blame him for gas prices. My solution to high gas prices was simple: I got a car with good fuel efficiency (typical for my '02 Echo is ~35 mpg. I pay less than $100/month for gas... big whoop.