Socialized Medicine Options

[Rastaman]

Don't we just wish we had socialized medicine in the U.S. Moreever don't we wish we had quality doctors like the lads in Great Britian.

[Psykopath]

Heh, I was waiting for someone to pull the "if you don't like it you can get out" arguement. Thanks for making my day, Jason!

And James: You didn't defend your cruel statement in the slightest. Try again.

[JRockTTU]

Heh, I was waiting for someone to pull the "if you don't like it you can get out" arguement. Thanks for making my day, Jason!

And James: You didn't defend your cruel statement in the slightest. Try again.

If you want to boil my argument down to "if you don't like it you can get out" then so be it. Change is needed from time to time, but it's laughable when people want to change what makes America America. America was founded on the idea that anybody can succeed and prosper, not sit around playing Grand Theft Auto and collect checks from the government. If you don't like your country and what it stands for, then why wouldn't you leave?

And I haven't seen you make one valid argument in this thread, so you've got some catching up to do.

[Psykopath]

If you want to boil my argument down to "if you don't like it you can get out" then so be it. Change is needed from time to time, but it's laughable when people want to change what makes America America. America was founded on the idea that anybody can succeed and prosper, not sit around playing Grand Theft Auto and collect checks from the government. If you don't like your country and what it stands for, then why wouldn't you leave?

And I haven't seen you make one valid argument in this thread, so you've got some catching up to do.

C'mon...I'm just doing the "Impala in NPR" tactic!

This country once stood for slavery, but that changed. I'm not saying every single aspect of the American medical system needs to be all of a sudden free to all at the expense of every single tax payer. What does need to be addressed is the major disparity between basic health care and financial standing.Why does a single dose of tylenol (two OTC liquigels) in a hospital cost $5+? Why does a meal for a family member that has come to visit cost an additional $25 for a dry salisbury steak? Both of these experienced first hand when my grandfather had heart surgery (a surgery I STRONGLY believe he was pressured to have, regardless of actual necessity, on the basis of financial gain for the surgeon...I examined the x-rays thoroughly as did my mother who has been a nurse for nearly 30 years and we did not see a blockage of 90 damn percent, only amild one that an angiogram could have handled...but I digress.).

And just as James stated, I am in the same boat: I have been in the have-nots my whole life but am working strongly towards leaving that group forever. Many are in that group due to a general lack of work ethic and overabundance of laziness. Others are there due to cruel twists of circumstance, be them temporary or long term.
I just find issue wit.h people that claim the best solution to these issues is to have certain out groups either die off or leave