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Rastaman
post Jul 3 2007, 06:07 PM
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Don't we just wish we had socialized medicine in the U.S. Moreever don't we wish we had quality doctors like the lads in Great Britian.
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Dogmeat
post Jul 3 2007, 07:02 PM
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I'm against damn near anything that's socialized, especially they way the socialists (IE democrats) want to socialize it.

I don't give a flying fuck if you're a dejected, drug addicted illegal mexican or a white kid whose parents wanted a boy, you don't deserve to have health care for being a fuckup.


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Psykopath
post Jul 3 2007, 11:48 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 3 2007, 08:02 PM) *
I'm against damn near anything that's socialized, especially they way the socialists (IE democrats) want to socialize it.

I don't give a flying fuck if you're a dejected, drug addicted illegal mexican or a white kid whose parents wanted a boy, you don't deserve to have health care for being a fuckup.

So you're against police/fire services?

Basically, they are socialized programs (paid for by taxes).

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Edited out ambulance services. Fuck, don't know why I included that one. Those bills are AHHHHHHHHHHH insane.

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post Jul 4 2007, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 4 2007, 12:48 AM) *
So you're against police/fire/ambulance services?

Basically, they are socialized programs (paid for by taxes).

Please tell me you don't honestly believe this?


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post Jul 4 2007, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 3 2007, 11:48 PM) *
So you're against police/fire/ambulance services?

Basically, they are socialized programs (paid for by taxes).

QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 4 2007, 08:49 AM) *

Please tell me you don't honestly believe this?

Ambulance services don't count. You'll get a bill for that shit. You can add public schools, the library, and the USPS though.

So, are you saying that police officers, fire fighters, teachers, and public library employee's aren't working for the government? The USPS is a government agency(not free, but subsidized. It's cheaper to mail stuff through the USPS than say UPS, FedEx, and DHL).

If your cat is stuck in a tree and the fire dept. comes and help, will they send you a bill for services rendered?
If you went to public school(elementary, middle, jr.high and high), did the school send your parent's a bill?
When you go to the public library to use their computers and check out books, do they make you pay?

Why don't you get a bill for these things? They're already paid for by our tax dollars. These are socialized services, paid for by the government.


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post Jul 4 2007, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 4 2007, 12:13 PM) *
Ambulance services don't count. You'll get a bill for that shit. You can add public schools, the library, and the USPS though.

So, are you saying that police officers, fire fighters, teachers, and public library employee's aren't working for the government? The USPS is a government agency(not free, but subsidized. It's cheaper to mail stuff through the USPS than say UPS, FedEx, and DHL).

If your cat is stuck in a tree and the fire dept. comes and help, will they send you a bill for services rendered?
If you went to public school(elementary, middle, jr.high and high), did the school send your parent's a bill?
When you go to the public library to use their computers and check out books, do they make you pay?

Why don't you get a bill for these things? They're already paid for by our tax dollars. These are socialized services, paid for by the government.

I know all of this, but I'm asking if he actually believes that healthcare should be paid for by our taxes just like these services are.

I guess I should have made a full argument instead of a short post. I just don't think you can compare health care services to emergency services.


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Psykopath
post Jul 4 2007, 05:16 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 4 2007, 06:05 PM) *
I know all of this, but I'm asking if he actually believes that healthcare should be paid for by our taxes just like these services are.

I guess I should have made a full argument instead of a short post. I just don't think you can compare health care services to emergency services.


Your original post made absolutely no mention of the question you've put forth here.

I do believe that at least a partially subsidized form of health care would be an improvement to the current 'charge out the ass for every goddamned thing' medical system we have today.

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post Jul 4 2007, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 4 2007, 06:16 PM) *
Your original post made absolutely no mention of the question you've put forth here.

That's why I said:

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I guess I should have made a full argument instead of a short post.


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- Rastaman   Socialized Medicine   Jul 3 2007, 06:07 PM
- - lamont's lament   nope!   Jul 3 2007, 06:55 PM
- - Dogmeat   I'm against damn near anything that's soci...   Jul 3 2007, 07:02 PM
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|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 3 2007, 11:48 PM) ...   Jul 4 2007, 08:00 AM
|- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 4 2007, 12:48 AM) ...   Jul 4 2007, 08:49 AM
|- - dauss   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 3 2007, 11:48 PM) ...   Jul 4 2007, 11:13 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 4 2007, 12:13 PM) Ambu...   Jul 4 2007, 01:11 PM
|- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 4 2007, 12:13 PM) Ambu...   Jul 4 2007, 05:05 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jul 4 2007, 06:05 PM) I...   Jul 4 2007, 05:16 PM
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- - Rastaman   I was just commenting on idea that the high qualit...   Jul 4 2007, 03:21 PM
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- - Dogmeat   we need to abolish government health care because ...   Jul 4 2007, 06:42 PM
- - impala454   there are plenty of good doctors here. i sure as ...   Jul 7 2007, 12:18 AM
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- - James   For the record, I don't have any form of healt...   Jul 7 2007, 09:26 AM
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|- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 7 2007, 09:34 PM) So l...   Jul 8 2007, 02:05 PM
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