Hummer greener than Prius Options

[impala454]

I'm surprised no one discussed this yet... I haven't found any decent links but they discussed it on the world news the other night on some "Dust to Dust" report done. Basically, from manufacture to garbage heap, the hummer will use way less energy than a prius, as well as the prius production itself having adverse affects on the environment. Apparently the big pollutant for the prius, is something like the nickel mining for its lots of batteries being one of the dirtiest, most polluting resources on the planet today.

here's a quick story (yes i know its a hummer site) but it will explain what the story is about.
http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/study...ndly-than-prius

Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius. As already noted, the Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers. The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.

The plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. Dubbed the Superstack, the plague-factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario, becoming every environmentalist’s nightmare.

[Dogmeat]

I'm surprised no one discussed this yet... I haven't found any decent links but they discussed it on the world news the other night on some "Dust to Dust" report done. Basically, from manufacture to garbage heap, the hummer will use way less energy than a prius, as well as the prius production itself having adverse affects on the environment. Apparently the big pollutant for the prius, is something like the nickel mining for its lots of batteries being one of the dirtiest, most polluting resources on the planet today.

here's a quick story (yes i know its a hummer site) but it will explain what the story is about.
http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/study...ndly-than-prius

Yeah, I also like how those same people wanna shut down drilling operations in this country because "they ruin the environment" but it's perfectly ok for us to fuck up the middle-eastern environment by that logic.

"environmentalists" are fucking idiots, period. And you can quote me on that

[Psykopath]

"environmentalists" are fucking idiots, period. And you can quote me on that

The "hippie" douchebags that want to do nothing more than bitch and smoke pot (or go all sue happy) are.

The ones that actually care about the world around them, utilizing logic (not found to often on this website) instead of a fad feeling, are a-ok in my book.

[Dogmeat]

The "hippie" douchebags that want to do nothing more than bitch and smoke pot (or go all sue happy) are.

The ones that actually care about the world around them, utilizing logic (not found to often on this website) instead of a fad feeling, are a-ok in my book.

In my actual real world experience dealing with so-called logical "environmentalists", I quite frankly can't find any real sort of logic despite their claims. I see obstructionist elitist mentalities that prevade virtually ever "sensible" thing thing they claim they do.

I've read through countless BLM, USFS, State DEQ's, etc proposals and papers on subjects ranging from deer migration and how this effects oil and gas pipelines to public access for snowmobile and OHV's to fucking MOUNTAIN BIKES. Hence far the vast majority of what I've read is a bunch of half-assed government beauracratic political statements made on part of government agencies for politicans scratching backs than I have actual environmental science.

If I had to give a very liberal estimate of how much of what so-called "environmental proposals" as far as allowing drilling operations and public access to national forests and other various types of land go, I'd say roughly %10 of what the environmentalists put out has anything to do with actually protecting "the environment" and the other %90 of it is pure political bullshit.

[Psykopath]

In my actual real world experience dealing with so-called logical "environmentalists", I quite frankly can't find any real sort of logic despite their claims. I see obstructionist elitist mentalities that prevade virtually ever "sensible" thing thing they claim they do.

I've read through countless BLM, USFS, State DEQ's, etc proposals and papers on subjects ranging from deer migration and how this effects oil and gas pipelines to public access for snowmobile and OHV's to fucking MOUNTAIN BIKES. Hence far the vast majority of what I've read is a bunch of half-assed government beauracratic political statements made on part of government agencies for politicans scratching backs than I have actual environmental science.

If I had to give a very liberal estimate of how much of what so-called "environmental proposals" as far as allowing drilling operations and public access to national forests and other various types of land go, I'd say roughly %10 of what the environmentalists put out has anything to do with actually protecting "the environment" and the other %90 of it is pure political bullshit.

I'll agree to a point. Just as any other interest group, environmentalists are heavily influenced by political motivations.

[Dogmeat]

I'll agree to a point. Just as any other interest group, environmentalists are heavily influenced by political motivations.

I guess the point that I'm trying to make is, I think I generally partake in "using the environment" so to speak a hell of a lot more than that people who vote for the people who claim they are protecting it.

Why in the world would I want to fuck up the outdoor world I love to be in? Seriously ...

If I thought for one second me riding a 4-wheeler, snowmobile, working in the oil and gas industry, shitting in the woods, etc ... was creating havoc I wouldn't be doing it.

I guess the way I see it is, they're paying me a pretty good wage, but it's sure as hell not enough to give up things that are important to me in that respect.

[Psykopath]

I guess the point that I'm trying to make is, I think I generally partake in "using the environment" so to speak a hell of a lot more than that people who vote for the people who claim they are protecting it.

Why in the world would I want to fuck up the outdoor world I love to be in? Seriously ...

If I thought for one second me riding a 4-wheeler, snowmobile, working in the oil and gas industry, shitting in the woods, etc ... was creating havoc I wouldn't be doing it.

I guess the way I see it is, they're paying me a pretty good wage, but it's sure as hell not enough to give up things that are important to me in that respect.

Speaking of 4-wheeler, snowmobiling, amidst the trees shatting...

We still need to go camping. ='(