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impala454
post Jul 1 2007, 12:32 AM
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I'm surprised no one discussed this yet... I haven't found any decent links but they discussed it on the world news the other night on some "Dust to Dust" report done. Basically, from manufacture to garbage heap, the hummer will use way less energy than a prius, as well as the prius production itself having adverse affects on the environment. Apparently the big pollutant for the prius, is something like the nickel mining for its lots of batteries being one of the dirtiest, most polluting resources on the planet today.

here's a quick story (yes i know its a hummer site) but it will explain what the story is about.
http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/study...ndly-than-prius
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Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius. As already noted, the Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers. The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.

The plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. Dubbed the Superstack, the plague-factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario, becoming every environmentalist’s nightmare.
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Dogmeat
post Jul 2 2007, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 12:32 AM) *
I'm surprised no one discussed this yet... I haven't found any decent links but they discussed it on the world news the other night on some "Dust to Dust" report done. Basically, from manufacture to garbage heap, the hummer will use way less energy than a prius, as well as the prius production itself having adverse affects on the environment. Apparently the big pollutant for the prius, is something like the nickel mining for its lots of batteries being one of the dirtiest, most polluting resources on the planet today.

here's a quick story (yes i know its a hummer site) but it will explain what the story is about.
http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/study...ndly-than-prius


Yeah, I also like how those same people wanna shut down drilling operations in this country because "they ruin the environment" but it's perfectly ok for us to fuck up the middle-eastern environment by that logic.

"environmentalists" are fucking idiots, period. And you can quote me on that smile.gif


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post Jul 2 2007, 07:24 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 2 2007, 01:41 PM) *
"environmentalists" are fucking idiots, period. And you can quote me on that smile.gif


The "hippie" douchebags that want to do nothing more than bitch and smoke pot (or go all sue happy) are.

The ones that actually care about the world around them, utilizing logic (not found to often on this website) instead of a fad feeling, are a-ok in my book.


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post Jul 3 2007, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 2 2007, 07:24 PM) *
The "hippie" douchebags that want to do nothing more than bitch and smoke pot (or go all sue happy) are.

The ones that actually care about the world around them, utilizing logic (not found to often on this website) instead of a fad feeling, are a-ok in my book.


In my actual real world experience dealing with so-called logical "environmentalists", I quite frankly can't find any real sort of logic despite their claims. I see obstructionist elitist mentalities that prevade virtually ever "sensible" thing thing they claim they do.

I've read through countless BLM, USFS, State DEQ's, etc proposals and papers on subjects ranging from deer migration and how this effects oil and gas pipelines to public access for snowmobile and OHV's to fucking MOUNTAIN BIKES. Hence far the vast majority of what I've read is a bunch of half-assed government beauracratic political statements made on part of government agencies for politicans scratching backs than I have actual environmental science.

If I had to give a very liberal estimate of how much of what so-called "environmental proposals" as far as allowing drilling operations and public access to national forests and other various types of land go, I'd say roughly %10 of what the environmentalists put out has anything to do with actually protecting "the environment" and the other %90 of it is pure political bullshit.


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- impala454   Hummer greener than Prius   Jul 1 2007, 12:32 AM
- - Aaron   Nice find!   Jul 1 2007, 03:11 AM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:32 AM) ...   Jul 1 2007, 07:02 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 1 2007, 08:02 AM) ...   Jul 1 2007, 12:35 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:35 PM) ...   Jul 1 2007, 12:42 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 1 2007, 01:42 PM) ...   Jul 1 2007, 12:50 PM
- - James   I think he wanted to point out that everyone else ...   Jul 1 2007, 07:08 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (James @ Jul 1 2007, 08:08 AM) I th...   Jul 1 2007, 07:14 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   wanna save the enviroment? kill people. kill l...   Jul 1 2007, 07:30 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jul 1 2007, 08:30 A...   Jul 1 2007, 12:34 PM
- - James   Yeah. That's a very true statement. One chil...   Jul 1 2007, 07:39 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (James @ Jul 1 2007, 08:39 AM) Yeah...   Jul 1 2007, 07:52 AM
- - James   That'd just be silly. We'd revert to an a...   Jul 1 2007, 08:04 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (James @ Jul 1 2007, 09:04 AM) That...   Jul 1 2007, 11:18 AM
- - dauss   I read it back in March and was skeptical about th...   Jul 1 2007, 10:10 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 1 2007, 11:10 AM) LOL,...   Jul 1 2007, 12:41 PM
|- - dauss   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 12:41 PM) ...   Jul 1 2007, 01:39 PM
- - Psykopath   HAHA, glad the article actually had some context n...   Jul 1 2007, 10:33 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 1 2007, 11:33 AM) ...   Jul 1 2007, 12:38 PM
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- - jimmy pop   Impala getting owned in an NPR argument....looks l...   Jul 1 2007, 12:50 PM
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|- - dauss   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 10:36 PM) ...   Jul 2 2007, 05:24 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 2 2007, 06:24 PM) Now ...   Jul 2 2007, 09:47 PM
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|- - impala454   QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 2 2007, 12:47 PM) Sig...   Jul 2 2007, 12:14 PM
|- - James   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 2 2007, 01:14 PM) ...   Jul 2 2007, 12:19 PM
- - James   Lots of stuff has changed. Lance has another new ...   Jul 2 2007, 12:39 PM
|- - jimmy pop   QUOTE (James @ Jul 2 2007, 01:39 PM) Lots...   Jul 2 2007, 12:51 PM
- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 12:32 AM) ...   Jul 2 2007, 12:41 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 2 2007, 01:41 PM) ...   Jul 2 2007, 07:24 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 2 2007, 07:24 PM) ...   Jul 3 2007, 10:17 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 3 2007, 11:17 PM) In...   Jul 3 2007, 11:46 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 3 2007, 11:46 PM) ...   Jul 4 2007, 08:04 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 4 2007, 09:04 AM) I ...   Jul 4 2007, 01:13 PM
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- - James   I use logic everytime I post. It goes something l...   Jul 2 2007, 07:36 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (James @ Jul 2 2007, 08:36 PM) I us...   Jul 2 2007, 07:40 PM
- - Spectatrix   Awww, I'm so touched... Granted, Impala woul...   Jul 2 2007, 09:41 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   hi   Jul 2 2007, 09:58 PM
- - impala454   Here's my post application right here CODEvoid...   Jul 2 2007, 10:15 PM
- - Psykopath   heh, very nice   Jul 2 2007, 10:31 PM


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