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impala454
post Jul 1 2007, 12:32 AM
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I'm surprised no one discussed this yet... I haven't found any decent links but they discussed it on the world news the other night on some "Dust to Dust" report done. Basically, from manufacture to garbage heap, the hummer will use way less energy than a prius, as well as the prius production itself having adverse affects on the environment. Apparently the big pollutant for the prius, is something like the nickel mining for its lots of batteries being one of the dirtiest, most polluting resources on the planet today.

here's a quick story (yes i know its a hummer site) but it will explain what the story is about.
http://www.hummerguy.net/hummer-news/study...ndly-than-prius
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Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius. As already noted, the Prius is partly driven by a battery which contains nickel. The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers. The area around the plant is devoid of any life for miles.

The plant is the source of all the nickel found in a Prius’ battery and Toyota purchases 1,000 tons annually. Dubbed the Superstack, the plague-factory has spread sulfur dioxide across northern Ontario, becoming every environmentalist’s nightmare.
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post Jul 1 2007, 05:48 PM
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impala you havent posted anything in response to daus' article links.

and nothing youve said throughout this thread has made any sense. if one was a true greenie and wanted to live like one its fairly simple. Green Houses (and no not glass ones) are hugely popular, cost effective in the long run, virtually 100% environmentally friendly and literally recyclable. and you can build one is any modern day suburb or whatever climate you wish


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post Jul 1 2007, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jul 1 2007, 06:48 PM) *
impala you havent posted anything in response to daus' article links.

daus posted a link to some environmentalists blog... wtf do you think it's gonna say?

QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jul 1 2007, 06:48 PM) *
and nothing youve said throughout this thread has made any sense. if one was a true greenie and wanted to live like one its fairly simple. Green Houses (and no not glass ones) are hugely popular, cost effective in the long run, virtually 100% environmentally friendly and literally recyclable. and you can build one is any modern day suburb or whatever climate you wish

show me one
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post Jul 2 2007, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 10:36 PM) *
daus posted a link to some environmentalists blog... wtf do you think it's gonna say?

And you posted to some Hummer blog, wtf do you think it's gonna say?

The original blogger(off the environmental one) will post some sort of ignorant statement, much like the article that you posted that some kid wrote as an editorial for his school paper, and which you have taken as fact. The stuff I copied were rebuttals to ignorant people like you that defended this Chris Demorro guy under the comments section.

If nickel is such a problem, perhaps we should blame contracters for using stainless steel in their buildings, roads, and bridges. Blame the entire automotive industry, the foodservice industry, and tool manufacturing for all their stainless steel usage also. While we're at it, blame Sony, Energizer, Rayovac, and Duracell for making billions of batteries that contain nickel. The entire television, speaker, microphone, hard disk drive, credit cards, tranformers, electric motors and generator industry for their obscene use of magnets in their products, which contain nickel. Of course, you can't forget to blame the US for having nickel in US nickels, dimes, quarters and other coinage by the rest of the world that contains nickel. The list goes on and on for the applications of nickel.

Now keep in mind that all of these things have been used for many years, and some for decades and centuries, way before a the concept of a Prius even existed.


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- impala454   Hummer greener than Prius   Jul 1 2007, 12:32 AM
- - Aaron   Nice find!   Jul 1 2007, 03:11 AM
- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 1 2007, 01:32 AM) ...   Jul 1 2007, 07:02 AM
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- - James   I think he wanted to point out that everyone else ...   Jul 1 2007, 07:08 AM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (James @ Jul 1 2007, 08:08 AM) I th...   Jul 1 2007, 07:14 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   wanna save the enviroment? kill people. kill l...   Jul 1 2007, 07:30 AM
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