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post Jun 12 2007, 08:54 PM
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Texas Tech student Ross Baker, 23, was shot and killed Saturday morning at a Tech Terrace home at 3006 24th St.

Baker was a senior construction engineering major from Weatherford.

The shooting occurred around 3:45 a.m., according to the police report. The homeowner, Charles Mire, told police he confronted Baker, and Mire said he then fired a warning shot into the ceiling above his head. Mire shot Baker after he did not leave following the warning shot.

He was then transported to the University Medical Center, where he later died, according to the police report.

Baker had no prior criminal record.

The Baker family was unable to be reached for comment Monday.

Meg Carroll, a senior accounting major from Houston and a close friend of Baker's, said Baker was always great company and a peaceful person.

"Nobody ever had any problems with him. (He was) very non-confrontational," Carroll said. "He would never wrong anybody. All he did was go hunting on the weekends or hang out with friends."

Carroll said Baker enjoyed anything having to do with the outdoors, such as fishing and hunting.

Sergeant John Gomez said the police department is still in the process of gathering information from several witnesses. He said Baker's autopsy and toxicology information will not be available for another two or three weeks.

Baker was a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity.


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post Jun 14 2007, 10:18 AM
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yeah i suppose the flashlight could be ok... I'd just hate to give myself away so easily if the guy was armed. it's just a hypothetical situation anyways, 99 times out of 100 you'll be able to vaguely see the person and know their intentions. it's just the hypothetical situation that they dont respond to your verbal assault and dont leave your home, and you cannot ID them.
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post Jun 14 2007, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 14 2007, 11:18 AM) *
yeah i suppose the flashlight could be ok... I'd just hate to give myself away so easily if the guy was armed. it's just a hypothetical situation anyways, 99 times out of 100 you'll be able to vaguely see the person and know their intentions. it's just the hypothetical situation that they dont respond to your verbal assault and dont leave your home, and you cannot ID them.


you don't wanna use a flashlight... but you're willing to scream at someone and give away your presence that way..... it doesn't change a thing. if you can't see what you're shooting at, don't fucking shoot. you should know your own place well enough that you won't need a flash light till you're almost on the guy. if you heard a noise to wake up in the first place, then odds are the intruder will still be making enough noise for you to be able to locate him. assess the situation while hiding if you can, determine the threat without being seen if possible. you should have already called the police as soon as you woke up. if you can avoid confrontation without him knowing you are there watching. you should do that. the important thing is that you protect your family. if he never comes near them and is content to try stealing a few carriable items out, let him. losing property is better than killing someone. i understand alot of people are like "fuck that! i'm blowing that thieves ass away so he can't do it again!" but do any of you actually want to know you killed someone for the rest of your life? i sure don't. if he sees you, (and because impala is a dumb ass, i will have to remind him that he's already i.d.'d the threat, determined that the guy isn't armed, or that the gun is it a place that will take a couple seconds to get to) you should stall. hit him with the flashlight in the eyes, watch to see if he goes for that gun. yell at him to freeze and lay down. but stall so the police can show up if at all possible. if he jumps for that gun in his waist, you have no choice but to shoot him. the flashlight should have killed his night vision like cupcake said, making it less likely he could see you to shoot you, giving you a little bit of safety, but if he goes for that gun, stalling is over and you are forced to shoot.


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- James   Tech student shot, killed in Tech Terrace neighborhood   Jun 12 2007, 08:54 PM
- - JRockTTU   Yeah, I've read about this the past few days. ...   Jun 12 2007, 08:56 PM
- - James   Always a possibility that a warning shot wasn...   Jun 12 2007, 08:58 PM
- - kschristia   so...what about Mire?   Jun 12 2007, 09:16 PM
- - James   What you mean what about Mire? He was within his ...   Jun 12 2007, 09:28 PM
|- - kschristia   QUOTE (James @ Jun 12 2007, 10:28 PM) Wha...   Jun 12 2007, 09:31 PM
- - James   Well, it was a Daily Toreador article. I'll g...   Jun 12 2007, 09:36 PM
- - pysex   So they write this report without telling us what ...   Jun 12 2007, 09:37 PM
- - James   Yeah, go figure. Much better reporting. QUOTE Ho...   Jun 12 2007, 09:38 PM
|- - kschristia   QUOTE (James @ Jun 12 2007, 10:38 PM) Yea...   Jun 12 2007, 09:57 PM
- - James   Lock your doors people!   Jun 12 2007, 09:40 PM
|- - Junsui   QUOTE (James @ Jun 12 2007, 10:40 PM) Loc...   Jun 12 2007, 10:05 PM
- - jwttu   Didnt they change the law in Texas that you could ...   Jun 12 2007, 09:42 PM
- - pysex   thanks james the dt is an abomination to anything...   Jun 12 2007, 09:46 PM
- - JRockTTU   Yeah, sorry, I would have cleared that up in my fi...   Jun 12 2007, 10:02 PM
- - Testm0nkey   i wonder if there will be any backlash on fraterna...   Jun 12 2007, 10:13 PM
- - Divergent Reality   i saw his picture in the tech newspaper, that guy ...   Jun 12 2007, 11:15 PM
- - TetraGrammaton Cleric   i am not inviting all of you to come over to my un...   Jun 12 2007, 11:35 PM
- - impala454   sucks to hear, sounds like he was a good guy. but...   Jun 12 2007, 11:36 PM
- - cupcake   he was a good guy. my best friend is the guy who b...   Jun 13 2007, 09:30 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 10:30 AM) a...   Jun 13 2007, 09:39 AM
- - Hartmann   The DTD guys I knew were good guys and I doubt it ...   Jun 13 2007, 09:45 AM
- - schwab   If some guy ran into my apartment/house in teh mid...   Jun 13 2007, 10:03 AM
- - cupcake   I'm not placing blame on the home owner, let...   Jun 13 2007, 10:26 AM
|- - schwab   QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 11:26 AM) I...   Jun 13 2007, 10:31 AM
|- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 11:26 AM) I...   Jun 13 2007, 10:34 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jun 13 2007, 11:34 AM) ...   Jun 13 2007, 10:59 AM
- - impala454   well yeah... hindsight is 20/20. if it's 3:45...   Jun 13 2007, 10:33 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 13 2007, 11:33 AM)...   Jun 13 2007, 11:08 AM
||- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 12:08 PM) 4...   Jun 13 2007, 11:50 AM
||- - cupcake   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 13 2007, 12:50 PM)...   Jun 13 2007, 12:27 PM
||- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 13 2007, 12:50 PM)...   Jun 13 2007, 05:41 PM
||- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 13 2007, 06:41 ...   Jun 13 2007, 06:40 PM
||- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 13 2007, 07:40 PM)...   Jun 13 2007, 07:15 PM
||- - Psykopath   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 13 2007, 08:15 ...   Jun 13 2007, 07:16 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 13 2007, 11:33 AM)...   Jun 13 2007, 05:33 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 13 2007, 06:33 ...   Jun 14 2007, 08:53 AM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 14 2007, 09:53 AM)...   Jun 14 2007, 09:38 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 14 2007, 10:38 ...   Jun 14 2007, 09:54 AM
- - Jessica   dont get so bloody hammered...problem solved   Jun 13 2007, 10:34 AM
|- - schwab   QUOTE (Jessica @ Jun 13 2007, 11:34 AM) d...   Jun 13 2007, 10:36 AM
- - cmac   a couple of different things...what is the race of...   Jun 13 2007, 11:24 AM
|- - James   QUOTE (cmac @ Jun 13 2007, 12:24 PM) a co...   Jun 13 2007, 11:31 AM
- - James   What if the kid were bigger than you? Obviously, ...   Jun 13 2007, 11:27 AM
- - cupcake   that shot sure does get people's attention. I...   Jun 13 2007, 11:30 AM
- - cmac   what if, just for argument's sake, this man ha...   Jun 13 2007, 11:42 AM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (cmac @ Jun 13 2007, 12:42 PM) what...   Jun 13 2007, 11:47 AM
- - James   Doesn't matter. And you sound like Lance   Jun 13 2007, 11:47 AM
- - Testm0nkey   man tech terrace is some ghetto ass shit. dumb co...   Jun 13 2007, 11:52 AM
- - Hartmann   My thing is that at 3am with adrenaline pumping, d...   Jun 13 2007, 12:24 PM
- - impala454   they're not military rules... just rules that ...   Jun 13 2007, 12:38 PM
- - cupcake   first, he's not my personal commander (mine wa...   Jun 13 2007, 12:57 PM
- - cupcake   also I want to clarify I am not blaming the shoote...   Jun 13 2007, 01:09 PM
- - impala454   so while you're taking the time to shine your ...   Jun 13 2007, 01:11 PM
- - cupcake   I hear you. ID'ing the threat doesn't tak...   Jun 13 2007, 01:26 PM
- - impala454   I understand what you're saying. I just see t...   Jun 13 2007, 01:30 PM
- - cupcake   yeah, well regardless I think this dude was pretty...   Jun 13 2007, 01:41 PM
- - impala454   yeah, definitely a sad case. I love to see when a...   Jun 13 2007, 01:49 PM
- - cupcake   lol in that case, a quick story this dude who wor...   Jun 13 2007, 02:20 PM
|- - pysex   QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 03:20 PM) c...   Jun 13 2007, 02:21 PM
- - impala454   heh that would suck. I always figured I could hav...   Jun 13 2007, 02:39 PM
- - cupcake   what .22 do you have? cheap ammo is rad.   Jun 13 2007, 02:55 PM
- - impala454   a Ruger MKIII Hunter   Jun 13 2007, 03:02 PM
|- - Psykopath   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 13 2007, 04:02 PM)...   Jun 13 2007, 03:08 PM
- - cupcake   those things are nail drivers.   Jun 13 2007, 03:21 PM
- - JRockTTU   Cannonball (I refuse to call you cupcake) wins thi...   Jun 13 2007, 04:05 PM
- - cupcake   come hither...call me cupcake... whisper it... L...   Jun 13 2007, 04:20 PM
- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (cupcake @ Jun 13 2007, 12:08 PM) I...   Jun 13 2007, 04:49 PM
- - James   Good question. Don't watch local news. Lubbo...   Jun 13 2007, 04:52 PM
- - Renegadepeon   I agree with Impala. Darwin award for the intrude...   Jun 13 2007, 05:03 PM
- - griseyeux   on both of the 911 recordings you can hear Mire sh...   Jun 13 2007, 06:04 PM
- - Hartmann   Having had to pull a gun now twice on people, I ca...   Jun 13 2007, 08:21 PM
- - Dogmeat   jesus christ I guess the fucking moral of the stor...   Jun 13 2007, 09:00 PM
- - moebary   if someone breaks into my house and I have time to...   Jun 13 2007, 09:13 PM
- - FORSAKENR320   you people are fogetting something.... if a guy ca...   Jun 13 2007, 10:15 PM
- - moebary   they changed that law, or made a new one where if ...   Jun 13 2007, 10:36 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (moebary @ Jun 13 2007, 11:36 PM) t...   Jun 13 2007, 11:26 PM
|- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 14 2007, 12:26 ...   Jun 14 2007, 04:47 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ Jun 14 2007, 05:47 PM) ...   Jun 14 2007, 11:08 PM
- - James   Texas vs. California. That's like comparing t...   Jun 14 2007, 06:09 AM
- - cmac   why does everyone from texas hate california?   Jun 14 2007, 07:56 AM
- - James   Reason #1 - Person that shot to maim instead of sh...   Jun 14 2007, 08:08 AM
- - pysex   i just want to clarify that impala is not italian ...   Jun 14 2007, 10:00 AM
- - impala454   i'm american   Jun 14 2007, 10:01 AM
|- - Testm0nkey   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 14 2007, 11:01 AM)...   Jun 14 2007, 12:40 PM
|- - lamont's lament   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Jun 14 2007, 01:40 PM...   Jun 14 2007, 04:13 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jun 14 2007, 05...   Jun 14 2007, 11:31 PM
- - cupcake   QUOTE well hopefully you'll come upon this sit...   Jun 14 2007, 10:03 AM
- - impala454   yeah i suppose the flashlight could be ok... I...   Jun 14 2007, 10:18 AM
- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 14 2007, 11:18 AM)...   Jun 14 2007, 10:43 AM
- - impala454   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 14 2007, 11:43 ...   Jun 14 2007, 11:19 AM


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