Tech student shot, killed in Tech Terrace neighborhood Options

[James]

Texas Tech student Ross Baker, 23, was shot and killed Saturday morning at a Tech Terrace home at 3006 24th St.

Baker was a senior construction engineering major from Weatherford.

The shooting occurred around 3:45 a.m., according to the police report. The homeowner, Charles Mire, told police he confronted Baker, and Mire said he then fired a warning shot into the ceiling above his head. Mire shot Baker after he did not leave following the warning shot.

He was then transported to the University Medical Center, where he later died, according to the police report.

Baker had no prior criminal record.

The Baker family was unable to be reached for comment Monday.

Meg Carroll, a senior accounting major from Houston and a close friend of Baker's, said Baker was always great company and a peaceful person.

"Nobody ever had any problems with him. (He was) very non-confrontational," Carroll said. "He would never wrong anybody. All he did was go hunting on the weekends or hang out with friends."

Carroll said Baker enjoyed anything having to do with the outdoors, such as fishing and hunting.

Sergeant John Gomez said the police department is still in the process of gathering information from several witnesses. He said Baker's autopsy and toxicology information will not be available for another two or three weeks.

Baker was a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity.

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[impala454]

well yeah... hindsight is 20/20. if it's 3:45 AM, pitch black and someone comes into your house and doesn't heed your warnings, taking time to learn about the situation could get you and your family killed. if this situation happened 100 times, how many times is it a drunk kid in the wrong house vs a drugged up armed robber? two extra seconds to flip the light on? I'd have to say I'd never give the guy that much time, although like you said it's easy to armchair QB it.

[FORSAKENR320]

well yeah... hindsight is 20/20. if it's 3:45 AM, pitch black and someone comes into your house and doesn't heed your warnings, taking time to learn about the situation could get you and your family killed. if this situation happened 100 times, how many times is it a drunk kid in the wrong house vs a drugged up armed robber? two extra seconds to flip the light on? I'd have to say I'd never give the guy that much time, although like you said it's easy to armchair QB it.

well, like you said, you've never been in that situation, so i understand why you view this. but to people like me and cupcake, who have actually had to pull steel on someone, our reaction is the exact opposite. having my piece drawn and aimed is enough for me. if the guy makes a hostile move.... it's alot easier for me to squeeze a finger than for him to dive for a weapon in his waist/pants/whatever. maintaining calm underfire is another thing. it's not something you learn about until it happens, but after you've been through it... in a situation like this, i would feel as if i had all the time in the world to get the result i wanted out of that situation. but not everyone has had cupcake and my experience, so our views are probably skewed out of the normal perspective on this.

[impala454]

but to people like me and cupcake, who have actually had to pull steel on someone, our reaction is the exact opposite.

that gave me a good laugh right there. dude you dont have a f'n clue what I'm saying. if some guy is in your house with bad intentions and has a gun, it's not in his f'n pants, it's loaded, cocked, and ready to blow you away. this isn't a police officer or military situation. if it's too dark to tell if someone has a gun, and they heed no verbal warnings and I have no other alternative, I'm shooting their ass. not fumbling around for a flashlight (which will immediately give my position away) or sneaking my way to the lightswitch. do you think they're going to show the same restraint? we're not talking about some situation on the street or in iraq, we're talking about someone being inside your home someone who is more than likely armed, and has a good chance of being on some drugs that impair their judgement. You can call me incompetent with a gun all you want, but the law agrees with me. and of course i'm not gonna just grab the gun and run around the corner ablazing. of course I'll do everything in my power to assess the situation and make the sensible decision. i'm not just out to get my jollies by killing people. when I lived in that area of town and kept my .357 loaded at night, i actually kept the first couple of rounds shotshells so I could hopefully incapacitate someone first if need be. but you can take your "ooh look at me" experience and calls that I shouldn't have a gun and shove em up your ass.

[FORSAKENR320]

that gave me a good laugh right there. dude you dont have a f'n clue what I'm saying. if some guy is in your house with bad intentions and has a gun, it's not in his f'n pants, it's loaded, cocked, and ready to blow you away. this isn't a police officer or military situation. if it's too dark to tell if someone has a gun, and they heed no verbal warnings and I have no other alternative, I'm shooting their ass. not fumbling around for a flashlight (which will immediately give my position away) or sneaking my way to the lightswitch. do you think they're going to show the same restraint? we're not talking about some situation on the street or in iraq, we're talking about someone being inside your home someone who is more than likely armed, and has a good chance of being on some drugs that impair their judgement. You can call me incompetent with a gun all you want, but the law agrees with me. and of course i'm not gonna just grab the gun and run around the corner ablazing. of course I'll do everything in my power to assess the situation and make the sensible decision. i'm not just out to get my jollies by killing people. when I lived in that area of town and kept my .357 loaded at night, i actually kept the first couple of rounds shotshells so I could hopefully incapacitate someone first if need be. but you can take your "ooh look at me" experience and calls that I shouldn't have a gun and shove em up your ass.

if some guy is in your house with bad intentions and has a gun, it's not in his f'n pants, it's loaded, cocked, and ready to blow you away.

well, thats why you fucking I.d. the situation properly, dumbass. if he's a threat he's dead. THIS GUY WAS NOT A THREAT YOU STUPID FUCKING ITALIAN BASTARD

if it's too dark to tell if someone has a gun, and they heed no verbal warnings and I have no other alternative, I'm shooting their ass.

this is fucking stupid. if it's too dark to see the guy has a gun, then it's too dark to know who the person is. but being the weekend warrior asshat that you are you're gonna pull some rambo bullshit anyway? you're the kind of person that causes all these fucking gun laws to happen in the first place. just take your guns to the pawn shop you don't deserve to have them.


and what would be the difference between a situation in the street and in your home? you keep mentioning that it isn't the military or the police., so apparently you think handling a gun differently in your home is apparently ok. what if it was a friend of yours who just had a crisis and came over paniced? according to what you are saying... you can't see the guy, can't see he's armed, but you're going to shoot anyway. congrats. you just shot your friend. if it was your sister who was just raped, had no where to go, is in shock and came running to your house because she was too paniced to think to call first? you just killed your sister. you are a total dumb fuck the more i read anything you post. the rules that apply to gun while you're in the military apply to anyone out of the military. you don't shoot at what you can't fucking see! move to california you ignorant little child

[impala454]

well, thats why you fucking I.d. the situation properly, dumbass. if he's a threat he's dead. THIS GUY WAS NOT A THREAT YOU STUPID FUCKING ITALIAN BASTARD

we stopped talking about the kid

this is fucking stupid. if it's too dark to see the guy has a gun, then it's too dark to know who the person is.

and also too dark for the guy to see who you are, which means you're dead. my God is it that difficult to understand?

and what would be the difference between a situation in the street and in your home?

uh... because in your home the person isn't fucking supposed to be there! fucking A were you a cop?!?!? this kinda shit scares me.

what if it was a friend of yours who just had a crisis and came over paniced? according to what you are saying... you can't see the guy, can't see he's armed, but you're going to shoot anyway. congrats. you just shot your friend. if it was your sister who was just raped, had no where to go, is in shock and came running to your house because she was too paniced to think to call first? you just killed your sister.

if it was my friend/family and I yelled at him "identify yourself or I'll shoot you!" he'd speak up! geezus man

you are a total dumb fuck the more i read anything you post. the rules that apply to gun while you're in the military apply to anyone out of the military. you don't shoot at what you can't fucking see! move to california you ignorant little child

well hopefully you'll come upon this situation so you'll get shot and robbed while trying shine your little flashlight the guy. i'm glad we have cops who feel situations on the street and inside a private home are the same thing. you're a fucking idiot if you think they are. no wonder cops have such a bad name nowadays.

If I hear someone in my house at 3:45 AM, I'm getting my gun, peering around the corner, and if I see nothing but a shadow of a person I'm going to yell at them, "who are you and wtf are you doing in my house". if they don't respond I'm going to yell again, "if you don't respond to me in 5 seconds I will shoot you". if they don't respond I'm shooting them. of course in most situations there will be some amount of light, and easy to see the person, but if people don't respond to those two statements, and don't run away, they're getting shot. I'm sorry you don't agree with the law.