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[cmac]

http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/ar...tion-museum.ars

or the Flickr set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/drjonboyg/set...57600301874014/

[impala454]

The problem is that everyone wants something. Everyone wants representation and equal rights but they want their own individual beliefs and views to be of utmost importance. That can't happen without stepping on other people's toes. It's true that if we didn't have a belief in a higher being, we might be in a different situation. There wouldn't be conflict of religious views. People need to stop thinking they are better than everyone else because in the end you're just a rotting meat log 6ft. under. Stop trying to make life more than it is.

how am I stepping on your toes by believing in what I believe in? I don't really understand why you'd have the view that a religious person thinks they're better than you are. and the hate is directed almost solely at Christians. I just don't get it. what threatens you about our beliefs so much?

[pysex]

how am I stepping on your toes by believing in what I believe in? I don't really understand why you'd have the view that a religious person thinks they're better than you are. and the hate is directed almost solely at Christians. I just don't get it. what threatens you about our beliefs so much?

impala....for the love of all things good and just....my comment was not directed solely at Christians

i was raised Catholic and still consider myself to be Catholic but I just don't practice it

my point is that as a whole, Christians DO step on other people's toes (especially Catholics and Baptists)....and so do Muslims

you can't build a society solely on christian values and then consider that society to be free and equal...it doesn't work like that....i know that now, the government tries to maintian a thin line between church and state but it hardly works that way

the same thing in building a muslim state that preaches hate and violence against all other religion


MY POINT IS THAT RELIGION FUCKING BLOWS....

organized religion is a bane on civilized society....

people can't gather into one group without experiencing some sort of superiority

[impala454]

I think you missed my questions

my point is that as a whole, Christians DO step on other people's toes (especially Catholics and Baptists)....and so do Muslims

"how do we step on your toes?" IS the question

you can't build a society solely on christian values and then consider that society to be free and equal...it doesn't work like that....i know that now, the government tries to maintian a thin line between church and state but it hardly works that way

again, what example can you provide that our society is "solely based on Christian values"? the only reference to God I ever see are in two places (which I'm surprised no one has mentioned), the pledge of allegience, and "in God we trust" on money. and I don't see what impact either of these has on our daily lives.

the same thing in building a muslim state that preaches hate and violence against all other religion
MY POINT IS THAT RELIGION FUCKING BLOWS....

but that's just it, you're not differentiating where you should be. it's a "muslim state" aka iraq, iran, etc, that is preaching violence and hate, not all muslims. what you're saying makes no sense. you see iran do something, and go "omg they're muslim, islam sucks religion sucks", when it should just be "omg iran sucks".

you guys are using religion as the scapegoat of the world's problems. let me ask you this: If by some strange event, all the Israelis decided to convert to Islam, do you really believe Iran would stop hating them and wanting to kill them?

and another question: If religion were to suddenly cease to exist, what precisely in your life would change for the better?

[pysex]

I think you missed my questions

"how do we step on your toes?" IS the question

again, what example can you provide that our society is "solely based on Christian values"? the only reference to God I ever see are in two places (which I'm surprised no one has mentioned), the pledge of allegience, and "in God we trust" on money. and I don't see what impact either of these has on our daily lives.
but that's just it, you're not differentiating where you should be. it's a "muslim state" aka iraq, iran, etc, that is preaching violence and hate, not all muslims. what you're saying makes no sense. you see iran do something, and go "omg they're muslim, islam sucks religion sucks", when it should just be "omg iran sucks".

you guys are using religion as the scapegoat of the world's problems. let me ask you this: If by some strange event, all the Israelis decided to convert to Islam, do you really believe Iran would stop hating them and wanting to kill them?

and another question: If religion were to suddenly cease to exist, what precisely in your life would change for the better?

How do we step on other people's toes?

I've been to Catholic mass many many times at many different churches. The priest almost always has some message of hate built into his sermon.

Terry Schiavo. People wanted her to die because she was a vegetable and eating away tax payer dollars (her family wasn't paying the bills anymore). Terry requested to not be put on life support. Her parents pleaded to Jeb Bush and President Bush to help her stay alive. There was a prayer session and communion of supporters to keep her alive. You don't think that the religious beliefs involved were stepping on other people's toes?

You don't think that saying "God bless America" and "God loves America" while bombing someon'e country isn't stepping on other people's toes?

Denying the right for someone to express their love for someone else simply because it doesn't follow your religious views isn't stepping on someone else's toes?

Not executing a convicted criminal that murdered 30 people because he found Jesus isn't stepping on someone else's toes?

Claiming that Christians are infidels and deserve a rotten death....isn't stepping on someone else's toes?

Taking away a certain product on the grocery shelf to make room for mhatza ball soup mix isn't stepping on someone else's toes?

Attempting to convert someone to Jesus because they had a shitty day...isn't stepping on someone's toes?

I don't like abortion. I think killing unborn babies is pretty fucking mean. My belief steps on the toes of those women who want to fuck around without protection and vacuum out the consequence.

The things we do in our life generally have some kind of impact on other people (whether it's good or bad). People believe what they believe in and difference of belief will always create conflict. We are destined to destroy ourselves over faith. Faith in a higher power that has an invested interest in our existence. Faith that what we believe is right and just. Faith that what we believe in is the only right way to believe.

Are you sure you're willing to give up EVERYTHING in this beautiful world for faith alone?



If religion hasn't been the basis for most of the world's problems then explain Sudan. Explain the Crusades. Explain the daily bombings in Middle Eastern countries. Explain why I can't go to Egypt without getting looks simply because I'm a white American (which automatically makes me Christian). Not all of Muslim preaches hate....but that doesn't mean they like us. Explain why Turkish Muslims hate Kurdish people. Explain why Shia Muslims hate Sunni Muslims. Explain why every act of violence over there has to be in the name of God. Explain why there are religions that require sacrifice of human beings for the Virgin Mary. Explain the age old conflict between Jewish people and Islam. Explain why Christians are better than that. Explain why we, as a Christian nation, have a major impact on how the world runs. Explain why in the old days people got their news, information, and education from the church. Explain why the religious leaders that we look up to and adore end up being just as human as we are.



Our country is based on Christian values. I don't know how you're going to argue against that. Making references to God on money has nothing to do with my point. I don't care if it says Jesus is the one and only love him...How we constructed our laws and governmental systems is based on a fundamental belief in Christian values. How can there be equality for all (since America is so big on equality and freedom) when a system was founded under one belief structure?



Oh and no...I didn't miss your questions. Your questions keep changing so it's pointless for me to answer them.