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post Jun 8 2007, 11:30 AM
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post Jun 11 2007, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 10 2007, 01:59 PM) *
The problem is that everyone wants something. Everyone wants representation and equal rights but they want their own individual beliefs and views to be of utmost importance. That can't happen without stepping on other people's toes. It's true that if we didn't have a belief in a higher being, we might be in a different situation. There wouldn't be conflict of religious views. People need to stop thinking they are better than everyone else because in the end you're just a rotting meat log 6ft. under. Stop trying to make life more than it is.

how am I stepping on your toes by believing in what I believe in? I don't really understand why you'd have the view that a religious person thinks they're better than you are. and the hate is directed almost solely at Christians. I just don't get it. what threatens you about our beliefs so much?
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post Jun 11 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jun 11 2007, 10:00 AM) *
how am I stepping on your toes by believing in what I believe in? I don't really understand why you'd have the view that a religious person thinks they're better than you are. and the hate is directed almost solely at Christians. I just don't get it. what threatens you about our beliefs so much?



impala....for the love of all things good and just....my comment was not directed solely at Christians

i was raised Catholic and still consider myself to be Catholic but I just don't practice it

my point is that as a whole, Christians DO step on other people's toes (especially Catholics and Baptists)....and so do Muslims

you can't build a society solely on christian values and then consider that society to be free and equal...it doesn't work like that....i know that now, the government tries to maintian a thin line between church and state but it hardly works that way

the same thing in building a muslim state that preaches hate and violence against all other religion


MY POINT IS THAT RELIGION FUCKING BLOWS....

organized religion is a bane on civilized society....

people can't gather into one group without experiencing some sort of superiority


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post Jun 11 2007, 10:41 AM
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I think you missed my questions
QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 11 2007, 11:16 AM) *
my point is that as a whole, Christians DO step on other people's toes (especially Catholics and Baptists)....and so do Muslims

"how do we step on your toes?" IS the question

QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 11 2007, 11:16 AM) *
you can't build a society solely on christian values and then consider that society to be free and equal...it doesn't work like that....i know that now, the government tries to maintian a thin line between church and state but it hardly works that way

again, what example can you provide that our society is "solely based on Christian values"? the only reference to God I ever see are in two places (which I'm surprised no one has mentioned), the pledge of allegience, and "in God we trust" on money. and I don't see what impact either of these has on our daily lives.

QUOTE (pysex @ Jun 11 2007, 11:16 AM) *
the same thing in building a muslim state that preaches hate and violence against all other religion
MY POINT IS THAT RELIGION FUCKING BLOWS....

but that's just it, you're not differentiating where you should be. it's a "muslim state" aka iraq, iran, etc, that is preaching violence and hate, not all muslims. what you're saying makes no sense. you see iran do something, and go "omg they're muslim, islam sucks religion sucks", when it should just be "omg iran sucks".

you guys are using religion as the scapegoat of the world's problems. let me ask you this: If by some strange event, all the Israelis decided to convert to Islam, do you really believe Iran would stop hating them and wanting to kill them?

and another question: If religion were to suddenly cease to exist, what precisely in your life would change for the better?
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