New York goes insane, Felony to sell M-rated games to minors Options

[Spectatrix]

http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/30/another...rs-into-felons/
http://inventorspot.com/felonytosellgames
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A08696&sh=t

Long story short: On May 30th, New York politicians proposed a bill that would make it a felony for retailers to sell games including "depraved violence and indecent images" (i.e. most M-rated games, possibly some T-rated ones too?) to folks under age 17. It would be a class E felony, which means 1-4 years in prison.

On May 31st, it passed in the New York Assembly 130 to 10. I'm not sure by what margin the corresponding legislation in the state senate passed by earlier in the month. The bill has passed and all that remains is for it to be signed into law by New York's governor.

Is it just me or is this MAJOR overkill? I'll admit that I disagree with putting legal age restrictions on the sale of games and movies in general, but I can see why people would support such legislation. However, anything more than a misdemeanor for such a "crime" is asinine.

[THECHICKEN]

Stalin killed millions, hitler killed millions, mongolians/chinese/japanese all killed TONS of people without any religion at all. Considering the centuries of war between china and japan would help account for many deaths NOT based on religion. Millions have also been killed for ethnic cleansing (which i would argue might be MORE than religion).

Hell just look at every american war (or wars by ANY country that happened AFTER this continent was found even).

Napolean, Korean wars, WWI, WWII

Hell even in afganistan, where russians were defeated, it can't be considered "in the name of religion" since it was just a battle for land and muslims were pushing them out.


So im sorry but fighting for POWER is the main killer in my opinion and NOT religion. (even though YES religion has been claimed for some wars in our history).

[Billy]

Stalin killed millions, hitler killed millions, mongolians/chinese/japanese all killed TONS of people without any religion at all. Considering the centuries of war between china and japan would help account for many deaths NOT based on religion. Millions have also been killed for ethnic cleansing (which i would argue might be MORE than religion).

Hell just look at every american war (or wars by ANY country that happened AFTER this continent was found even).

Napolean, Korean wars, WWI, WWII

Hell even in afganistan, where russians were defeated, it can't be considered "in the name of religion" since it was just a battle for land and muslims were pushing them out.
So im sorry but fighting for POWER is the main killer in my opinion and NOT religion. (even though YES religion has been claimed for some wars in our history).

I will agree. Wars fought over politics has killed more than religion. But murders due from religion have killed more than video games. If we are going to ban video games for minors on the basis that it trains killers, then we need to also ban religion.

[JRockTTU]

I will agree. Wars fought over politics has killed more than religion. But murders due from religion have killed more than video games. If we are going to ban video games for minors on the basis that it trains killers, then we need to also ban religion.

Religion has been around since the beginning of man. Video games have been round for 50 years. Maybe this is why your statement seems totally ignorant?

[Billy]

Religion has been around since the beginning of man. Video games have been round for 50 years. Maybe this is why your statement seems totally ignorant?

I am having a hard time understanding why this is even relevant? Unless your point is that I have a much bigger history to attack religion on.

Then fine. Let's look at the past 50 years then. Murders of homosexuals. Mass murders of Kurds. Turkish murders of christians. Why even go on? If you truley believe more people have been murdered over video games in the past 50 years than over differences of religions, please go kill yourself. You don't deserve your humanity.

And actually, don't come back to this thread until your IQ is over 40. Spare yourself the embarrassment. And I've decided to rename you Jessica.

*BUT* if that's not what you're saying, then I rescind this statement.

[JRockTTU]

I am having a hard time understanding why this is even relevant? Unless your point is that I have a much bigger history to attack religion on.

Then fine. Let's look at the past 50 years then. Murders of homosexuals. Mass murders of Kurds. Turkish murders of christians. Why even go on? If you truley believe more people have been murdered over video games in the past 50 years than over differences of religions, please go kill yourself. You don't deserve your humanity.

And actually, don't come back to this thread until your IQ is over 40. Spare yourself the embarrassment. And I've decided to rename you Jessica.

*BUT* if that's not what you're saying, then I rescind this statement.

I don't even think that video games are a contribution to murders more than anything else people experience every day. Do you read my posts or just see what you want to see? I think you have an irrational hatred for religion and you bring it up every opportunity. People do kill for religion, but many also kill for land, power, and wealth. By your logic we should also ban minors from wearing Air Jordans because people kill for them too.