I'm so proud to be a Texan Options

[pebkac]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070602/ap_on_...Bn.11QIDtYPLBIF

Texas, the leader in emitting this greenhouse gas, cranks out more than the next two biggest producers combined, California and Pennsylvania, which together have twice Texas' population.

[Hartmann]

I am not sure how relevant the data is that they are presenting. Coal is dirty but the recent mandatory scrubbing regulations have brought down the output of carbon dioxide by multitudes. When I was at a client last week (large electrical company) they were talking about how much they were cutting back on carbon dioxide emissions.

The big thing right now is refineries and figuring out how to efficiently make them less pollutant.

I would venture to guess that part of the reason Texas and Wyoming have a larger footprint than VT (which is a terrible case study BTW) is simply because of distance. Number of people matters when you are in a city but when you are a massive state with wide open spaces, you have to have more plants to supply people in rural areas with power.

Just drive on 71 to Austin and there is the Fayetteville facility which basically serves most of the rural hill country. They don't need that in VT, I mean, it's a tiny state. Just think of the distances involved in Wyoming, come on engineers (especially you electrical ones), tell me how far electricity can travel without becoming inefficient.

We only have a few rivers available for hydroelectric power and a lot of people do not want to see those dammed up. Solar power is used in some places out west but it does not work in a state where weekly hailstorms are the norm during the summer. Wind power is huge here and it's getting bigger, right up until the point where activists realize it's killing birds or something then it will be shot down. Then again, the wind power is perfect for west Texas with the rural populations, however, to serve somewhere like Lubbock a lot of land would have to be taken over to make it possible. Those are farms which are supplying cotton for export and making this country money... Yeah, everyone wants their cake and eat it too.

[pebkac]

I am not sure how relevant the data is that they are presenting. Coal is dirty but the recent mandatory scrubbing regulations have brought down the output of carbon dioxide by multitudes. When I was at a client last week (large electrical company) they were talking about how much they were cutting back on carbon dioxide emissions.

The big thing right now is refineries and figuring out how to efficiently make them less pollutant.

I would venture to guess that part of the reason Texas and Wyoming have a larger footprint than VT (which is a terrible case study BTW) is simply because of distance. Number of people matters when you are in a city but when you are a massive state with wide open spaces, you have to have more plants to supply people in rural areas with power.

Just drive on 71 to Austin and there is the Fayetteville facility which basically serves most of the rural hill country. They don't need that in VT, I mean, it's a tiny state. Just think of the distances involved in Wyoming, come on engineers (especially you electrical ones), tell me how far electricity can travel without becoming inefficient.

We only have a few rivers available for hydroelectric power and a lot of people do not want to see those dammed up. Solar power is used in some places out west but it does not work in a state where weekly hailstorms are the norm during the summer. Wind power is huge here and it's getting bigger, right up until the point where activists realize it's killing birds or something then it will be shot down. Then again, the wind power is perfect for west Texas with the rural populations, however, to serve somewhere like Lubbock a lot of land would have to be taken over to make it possible. Those are farms which are supplying cotton for export and making this country money... Yeah, everyone wants their cake and eat it too.

WOW

An actual analysis of what was posted and not another "damn hippies" response.